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Dark Omen

Nominated by: --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:40, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Nomination comments:
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Support

UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:40, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 13:36, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
A Good Omen.— Samonic 10:23, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:28, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
MasterFred(talk) (he/him) 16:56, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Object

UberSoldat

~~The air date needs another source.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:54, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Would a TV listings website work? Like the one currently used in "Zero Hour" for the release date? --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 19:03, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
  - Sure. UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
    - Added --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 21:44, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
~~The episode being the season finale needs another source too.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:03, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Done --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 19:03, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  - ~~That can just be sourced to that TV listing ref, so the extra ref can be eliminated.~~ Also, please split said citation into two. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    - Split the TV listing ref? Wouldn't I need to add two refs to source that sentence then? --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 23:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
      - Yes, since it aired as a two-parter. We should never cite multiple sources in the same reference outside of notes. UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:31, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
        Done. As for the Discord objection, I found this site for having a source that states the season, episode number, and air date. Would this work? --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 01:18, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
        That's a fansite, so no. UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:23, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
        I can't find a source, going to go look through SW.com again --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 17:44, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
        Got anything? UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:18, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
        Sorry for the late response, no I couldn't find anything on SW.com. Looked through the series news & blog, episode guide, Rebels Recon. --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 22:42, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
        How about this? UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:26, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- That one doesn't have the episode number, it just says season finale --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 19:40, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
  - Then you can use both refs; one for episode number and the other for season finale. UberSoldat93 (talk) 08:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
~~Context for Atollon and Lothal, please.~~
- Added --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 01:28, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  - Be careful with what information certain refs are covering next time. UberSoldat93 (talk) 05:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
~~Please cite Ultimate Star Wars, New Edition instead of the original book if it supports the same information.~~
- Done --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 01:47, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Lots of details need to be cut down e.g. the second paragraph of the first History section does not mention Dark Omen at all, not even indirectly, and neither does the third until the very end. Please ensure that the Dark Omen is the focus in History in all sections. Anything that is not directly relevant to the subject needs to go.
- Trimmed, please let me know if there's anything further that needs to be cut. --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 01:32, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  - Much better now. UberSoldat93 (talk) 05:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
~~See my copy-edit. Proper compound nouns shouldn't be uncapitalized in any capacity.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:12, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Braha'tok enthusiast made that change in a copy edit but I did not catch that. Thank you for finding and reverting that --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 01:28, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
~~I would like to see the negative space of the infobox image trimmed so that the ship is in the center.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:15, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Trimmed and centered --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 01:28, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  - Just noticed, the image appears to be upscaled. How did you take the shot? UberSoldat93 (talk) 05:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
    - I just cropped it --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
      - Then I think it's being upscaled due to your monitor resolution. I'll ask JMAS to take another one. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:27, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
~~I would also advise you to investigate these sources for potential mentions of the subject. There might be mentions of "Star Destroyers" and what not.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:17, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Working to verify only Build Your Own X-wing, rest have been searched. --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 05:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  - Three things: 1.) "Po" isn't applicable to videos 2.) I'd like to see the Youtube links used instead of SW.com since they have publication dates. 3.) The trailer is a 1stp, which also warrants documentation in the BTS. UberSoldat93 (talk) 05:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
    - Done --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 19:08, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
      - Done with source investigation as well? UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:33, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
        Just need X-wing, still looking. --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
        
        Confirming that Dark Omen is not covered at all in Build Your Own X-wing 7. That's all the sources --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 03:42, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
~~Can you modify the Description image caption so that it's more relevant to that section? e.g. "The ship featured a hangar" or something.~~
- Fixed --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
~~Few things missing as per status article precedent: Communications tower and hangar.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 05:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Communications tower is on the ISD-II, this is ISD-I. Hangar was already there, but I just changed it from saying Equipped to Hangar --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
  - I didn't notice the hangar, but I've modified it to match what we have on other starship articles. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:33, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
~~Seeing as Electrum does not include hyperdrive rating, I think the same should be done here.~~
- Shouldn't Electrum have hyperdrive rating if its confirmed that is has a hyperdrive? --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:14, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
  - Since Tommy wrote that one you'll have to discuss with him on why it was omitted. UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:17, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
    - Since there's precedent, I've removed it but I feel like that detail should be revisited. --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 20:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
~~I don't see the need of mentioning this when it isn't brought up later on and has no direct relation to this subject. "The Star Destroyers were accompanied by two Arquitens-class command cruisers."~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:50, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Since the Dark Omen was the lead Star Destroyer until Thrawn's arrival in the Chimaera I believe it's worthwhile to mention the Imperial capital ships that were there before Thrawn arrived. If you still feel like it should go then I'll go ahead, but I really feel like it's appropriate --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:14, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
  - Yeah, my stance remains unchanged. We don't really do this with starships unless a direct relation is established by sources. UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:17, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
    - Very well, removed! --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 20:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Dark'tok

"The frigates were prevented from doing so with the arrival of two Interdictor-class heavy cruisers until Thrawn's flagship, the Chimaera, arrived." If I'm not wrong, the interdictors were hindering the fleet's escape after the Chimaera rocked up as well.
- Fixed! --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 19:57, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
~~Context required for the rebel factions as well as the squadrons from those cells.~~ Braha'tok enthusiast ^{Hello there} 13:36, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- Added --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 19:57, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Macaroni

~~Context needed for Yavin 4.~~ JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 05:56, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Just saw this, added. --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 03:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
I kind of feel like we can cut down on the second paragraph in the second section. I get that it's all a bunch of context as to why the SDs launched the orbital bombardment, but until that bit it's unclear why any of it is needed, so perhaps some trimming would help. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 19:27, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Since all ISDs participated in those actions, including the Dark Omen, I'm not sure what part to trim down tbh in terms of the orbital bombardment, do you mean when Konstantine's Interdictor was destroyed? --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 21:05, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- I've trimmed parts of the History section per your and Shayanomer's objections. Please let me know if there's any further cutting that needs to be done. --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 01:33, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Fred strikes back

The quote attribution in "Description" reads like an image caption. It should ideally start with who said it, like, "Grand Admiral Thrawn ordering the Dark Omen into hyperspace," or something similar.
- Okay fixed! Let me know if it needs further rephrasing --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
"After Thrawn pinpointed the location of the Rebel Alliance's Chopper Base on the Lothal sector planet Atollon, he had Admiral Kassius Konstantine dispatch a squadron of five Imperial I-class Star Destroyers from Lothal, also a planet in the Lothal sector, to Atollon, including Ferno's Dark Omen, which was the lead destroyer." This is a run-on sentence. MasterFred(talk) (he/him) 05:01, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
  - Check how you've structured the second sentence. It currently doesn't make sense. MasterFred(talk) (he/him) 18:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
    - Reworded --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 18:18, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Erebus

The deflector shield generator domes on ISD Is are identified as ISD-72x shield generator domes by BMF 20. The engines are also seen to be the standard engine units on ISD Is in a hologram in the second part of Zero Hour.
- Ah nice catch, added both! --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 21:00, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
~~The octuple turbolaser batteries cannot be sourced directly to the episode, since it does not identify them as such.~~
- Removed, since there isn't direct confirmation --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 21:00, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
We never include hyperdrive classes unless they're explicitly identified in a source regarding that ship or if a source says that all were equipped with the same class. All we can say is that they are equipped with a hyperdrive if they enter or exit hyperspace per substantial precedent. Erebus Chronus ^(Talk) 19:21, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Removed, though I feel like that should be revisited --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 21:00, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
  - It's mostly because there are individual starships that are confirmed to have different hyperdrive classes than their starship class, such as the Invisible Hand, which the hyperdrive isn't a confirmed modification. Erebus Chronus ^(Talk) 21:33, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Ayrehead

I think overlapping images with the infobox should generally be avoided where possible and since there's room for an image in commanders and crew you should be able to shuffle them images down to avoid it. I'll leave which image goes where up to you. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 19:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 16:56, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Are you done with the Inuse? I cannot continue my review and copy-edit the article while it's still up. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Removing now --Vitus Infinitus^Talk 05:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)