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Cragmoloid

  • Nominated by: Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:53, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: WP:AS presents: Elephant guys with sawed-off tusks!

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Pink Cragmoloids on parade! ~ SavageBob 02:49, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote --Eyrezer 00:05, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Imperialles 17:20, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
  4. well done VadersFist666 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 09:29, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 15:41, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Object

Prepare to be savaged...
  • They certainly are Pacithhips on steroids, but saying they were intimidating in the lead is slightly POV. Perhaps rephrase that some found them intimidating or something. The same goes for "Appearance and biology" in "in the galaxy".
    • Not changed: 2 original sources specifically say they are intimidating. Omniscient narrator dixit. Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:08, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • Can you expand the lead a bit? Perhaps a few more aspects of their appearance could be mentioned?
  • No other images? The one where he's fighting Lando is good for illustrating violence, but it's hard to make out the species' appearance in it. Maybe you could add one more image somewhere?
    • Now with images from all the Cragmoloids with images! Including non-canon ones. Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:08, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • There seems to be some discrepancy as to the location of their homeworld; The Essential Atlas Online Companion places it in the Mid Rim, at coordinates I-7.
  • Can you add an approximate date for when they joined the galactic community? Perhaps using the date of their earliest appearance in canon to say, "By [X ABY/BBY]..."?
  • The same goes for the date by which the Empire had enslaved them and TaggeCo. had despoiled their world.
    • OS doesn't say anything about that. Most I can say is "Empire, created in 18 BBY" Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:08, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • The final paragraph of "History" seems more like "Cragmoloids in the galaxy" material to me.
    • How so? I think it reflects social customs of the whole species in a specific point of history. Commonly the "History" of a species includes "This species supported the Alliance/Empire for such-and-such reason" Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:08, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
      • Well, the information on how the species interacted with the rest of the galaxy doesn't seem like History so much (the bits about the jobs they tended to take, the sawing off of tusks, the inability to leave Arkus). The bits about how they tie in with the Empire and Alliance could remain in History, but the rest still seems more like In the galaxy to me. ~ SavageBob 17:10, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
  • Any reason the word menagerie is italicized?
  • Perhaps note which source you've followed in the article when you discuss the discrepancies in BTS.
  • How does the Cragmoloid feature in "Fett Club"?
    • Already explained; probably you mean "Best Birthday", which has been added. Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:08, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • That is all. Soon we will GA or FA all pachydermoids in the Star Wars galaxy. ~ SavageBob 20:56, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Eyrezer
  • Can you add anything abut Rooty's encounter with Lando? Currently it doesn't really explain what this was about.
    • Done.
  • A couple of points that I have fixed for you. 1) When we use —, there is no space on either side of the em dash. 2) Please watch your use of the word "in". There have been a few times you have used it instead of "on". Ie, it should be "on the planet", not "in the planet". I don't know if this is a Spanish/English thing, but I thought I'd point it out. --Eyrezer 01:28, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
    • 1) Oh, I didn't know that; 2) Yes, it's a S/E thing. Thank you for both. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:29, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
VadersFist666
  • Well done, but the only problem I have is the age discrepancy. I know the Ultimate Alien Anthology and Unusual Suspects say two different things but instead of having 400 years in the average lifespan box, and then calling 120 years an advanced age for them. I suggest using the Alien Anthology, only since it is more up to date. Other than that great article. VadersFist666 18:07, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
    • Corrected. Currently the article mentions the Unusual Suspects age only in Behind the Scenes. Skippy Farlstendoiro 16:53, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
L'Imperialles
  • History: "The Galactic Empire, created in 18 BBY" I may be completely wrong here, but wasn't it founded in 19 BBY (as per RotS?). Also, you need to provide a source for that date.
  • In the galaxy: "Although the Cragmoloids were intimidating even behind bars, they were really very sad for their situation" The last part is a little unclear to me. Was their situation sad or were they themselves depressed?
  • That's it. Well done. Hopefully you can take it to FA soon! --Imperialles 17:11, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
Moffship
  • Are the pachydermoids from Fett Club and Best Birthday Ever confirmed to be Cragmoloids? Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 01:06, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
    • No; expanded on that. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 04:26, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
      • If they're not confirmed to be Cragmoloids, both appearances should be removed, and all the info on these possible Cragmoloids needs to be modified to reflect this. Currently, you still refer to them as Cragmoloids further on in that BTS section. Additionally, pink will need to be removed from the skin color field of the infobox. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 18:37, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
        • All you asked done, even if I 100% disagree with your point. We assume that this guy is a Bith because he looks a lot like other Bith we've seen, but he could be an alien from some other, previously-unknown-to-us species. Morn looks like a Mon Calamari, so he's probably one, even if I hadn't ever seen one with that specific hue and that configuration of facial tentacles. The (featured) article on Manaan assumes that Dephts of History is talking about Darth Vader even if the article never specifies it (It might have been any other armor-cladded Force-sensitive Imperial). If it looks like a duck… Skippy Farlstendoiro 19:56, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
          • Yet I fail to see the resemblance between these two pachydermoids and a Cragmoloid. Honestly, I would have rather preferred that the section in question be removed completely, as it is based on speculation. But I didn't ask that of you, because I can see your reasoning for including it. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 15:41, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 15:41, July 7, 2010 (UTC)