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Conqueror-class atmospheric dreadnaught

  • Nominated by: Kilson 02:09, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:Giant floating hockey pucks, run for your lives!

(4 ACs/1 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Imperators II(Talk) 00:15, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 03:02, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
  4. ACvote 1358 (Talk) 19:05, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 21:16, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Object

Graestan
  • To the end discussed below, please categorize this article properly. Graestan(Talk) 17:22, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
    • I changed it to CIS vehicles. Kilson 05:43, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
      • Objection(s) overridden by AgriCorps 16:15, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • "…landed his starfigher on dreadnaught's roof/platform…" Please don't use slashes in the prose; we don't use parenthesis either. 1358 (Talk) 17:27, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
    • Switched it to roof, given the fact that the entire ship is technically a platform. Kilson 05:43, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • "…several Conqueror-class dreadnaughts were used by the Confederacy when the Separatists invaded the planet of Terra Sool." Sounds like the Confederacy and the Separatists were two different combatants. Please reword.
  • "Kenobi and Skywalker managed to destroy several Conqueror dreadnaughts during the battle…" How did they destroy them?
  • "…including a cockpit at the front of the ships…" At the front? Also, not a ship, remember. :P
    • No change here. 1358 (Talk) 17:10, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
      • Oops, missed that one. Should be good now.
  • "During its service in Confederacy's army, these dreadnaughts…" Grammar mistake; left a hint there. ;)
  • "…were crewed by a number of B1 battle droids and B2 super battle droids, and were also piloted by a pair of OOM pilot battle droids, but could be piloted by single human." "were crewed", "and were also"; choppy, please reword. Also note that sentient species like Human are capitalized; I've fixed it, but remember it in the future.
  • "…the Confederacy invaded the planet Terra Sool.[2] The Separatists dispatched a fleet…" Same issue here. I suggest you stick with either Confederacy/te or Separatist to avoid confusion.
  • "Meanwhile, Skywalker, still fighting off droid stafighters, picked up more droid communications using his astromech droid coming from farther away in the atmosphere. Following the Separatist communications to its source…" This needs to be tweaked. Skywalker's droid picked up the communications, right, not Skywalker himself? Also, "communications" is plural, therefore "its" is incorrect.
  • "…forcing him to crash-land on one of the dreadnaught's roof…" I'm not sure, but shouldn't that apostrophe be after the s in dreadnaught?
  • "Skywalker joined the battle, but his fighter was damaged during the engagement, forcing him to crash-land on one of the dreadnaught's roof, battling the battle droids aboard that Confederate ship." It sounds awkward to say have both "forcing" and "battling" in the same sentence.
  • "Kenobi began to engage the other Separatists dreadnaughts, but contacted Skywalker…" Why "but"?
  • "…destroying both." Both what?
  • Can you use {{CSWECite}} for the CSWE reference(s) and the source item?
    • Unfortunately, I only have the CSWE entry for the dreadnaught, not the volume or page number. I put a request in on the Forum:Entry requests, but that might take a little time. I will put the CSWECite in as soon as possible.
      • I feel like an idiot. Someone put the volume and page number on the talk page awhile back. Anyway, I put it in, so now all of your objecions should be addressed. Kilson 00:45, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
        • I've removed the page number from the sources section, as we don't give page numbers for other items there either. :) 1358 (Talk) 20:22, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
  • Overall, the article was pretty rough; there were a bunch of typos and minor grammar issues. Please make sure to copy-edit your nominations in the future. 1358 (Talk) 13:46, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the advice and the review. Your other objections should be addressed. —Unsigned comment by Kilson (talk • contribs)
  • Why don't you use {{CWACite}} for the Skywalkers reference? 1358 (Talk) 20:32, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • Didn't know that existed, I put it in. Also, did you ever check that previous objection I had missed earlier? I believe I addressed it, but you never replied. Kilson 20:53, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
Attack of the Clone
  • I'll give this a proper review once Xd is done (I'm not sure if he still has more objections), but for now, could you introduce the dreadnaught in singular form in the bio and intro (i.e. "The Conqueror-class atmospheric dreadnaught was a model of…") instead of the plural, as you currently do? Rather picky, but it just seems a little more prudent that way. CC7567 (talk) 09:49, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • I've reloaded the article's infobox. Please go through it and make sure there are no additional fields you might be able to fill in that were not there previously. And please remember to reload the infobox fresh for each new article you write. Meaning don't just use the infobox you find there. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:52, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks for reloading it for me. I went through and I can't find another field to put in. Kilson 22:57, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see the infobox's Armament field detailed more specifically. Such as specifying exactly how many and what caliber of laser cannons are on the top and sides of the craft. This is detailed in the Characteristics section. Additionally, we don't put spaces between punctuation and reference notes. Please revise the instance of this in the infobox. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
    • OK, those should be fixed now. I also added "Expensive" to the cost section because that's what the CSWE entry said, but I'm not sure if that's correct, given that fact it's not an actual number. Kilson 19:07, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • That's fine. Some notes on the infobox: I would recommend moving the droids mentioned in the "Passengers" field to the "Complement" field, since they're more of the craft's support staff than actual passengers. And, if it's relevant or appropriate, you might add a simple "Equipped" to the "Engine" field. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
        • Makes sense, added. Kilson 20:06, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • Please note that the MOS states that unless the ship class name is actually accompanied by -class, the name itself should not be italicized. Meaning all instances of the article using the wording "Conqueror dreadnaught" should not be italicized. If you want to keep those instances italicized, you should change all mentions to "Conqueror-class dreadnaught." Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:39, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • Either "classed" it and deitalicized it. If I missed any, tell me. Kilson 22:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm seeing specific crew number in the infobox that I would prefer to see reflected in the article proper. Specifically, the "at least 24" crew figure. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:02, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • I put it into the Characteristics section. How does it look?
  • Not an objection, but as a reviewing note, please remember that image captions should not be punctuated with an ending period unless the caption itself is a complete sentence. The two captions in this article, for example, do not require full stops. Please adapt this to your future articles as well. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:06, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks, will do. Kilson 23:07, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • If the Battle of Terra Sool is a conjectural title, this article should avoid referring to it in a formal sense. Namely, in the History section quote attribution. If the title is conjectural, simply de-capitalizing "battle" will suffice.
    • B is now b
  • Is this astromech R2-D2? Please specify, if so. If not, you might consider leaving a redlink for this droid character: "In the meantime, Skywalker's astromech droid informed the Padawan"
    • It is Artoo, and it is now specififed
  • Interestingly, the infobox lists the Republic among the class's affiliations, but nothing in the article asserts this. Hijacking an enemy vessel temporarily during a battle doesn't really count. Unless you have something I'm not seeing, I would recommend just removing that from the infobox. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:26, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I thought hijacking counted. Deleted. Kilson 23:36, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • Since Comics Companion refers to the vessels canonically as "battleships," I would prefer to see that term worked into the article. You could include it "Role" infobox field, and try to find at least one place to include it in the Characteristics section at the very least. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:45, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
Imperators II
  • If you have Star Wars: The Comics Companion listed as a source, information that appears in it should be referenced to it, too. Imperators II(Talk) 20:20, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • I unfortunately do not have The Comics Companion. CC put the source up there. I'm going message him if he has the Companion, and if so, if there's any new info it. If he doesn't have it, I'll put a Senate thread up. My apologies for the delay. Kilson 20:53, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
      • The book shows the vessel in the comic panel used for the article's main image and summarizes the comic as so: "Once again Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker are left alone to defend the skies against an armada of seemingly impregnable battleships." Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:45, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 21:16, April 5, 2011 (UTC)


  • As a side note, if this nomination passes, would it go under the Spacecraft or Vehicles section? Kilson 02:09, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
    • Vehicles. Graestan(Talk) 01:51, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
      • Thanks. Kilson 02:50, March 10, 2011 (UTC)