Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Brissa

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Contents

  • 1 Brissa
    • 1.1 (4 ACs/0 Users/4 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 Anil
        • 1.1.2.2 Panther
        • 1.1.2.3 Lew
        • 1.1.2.4 Macaroni
      • 1.1.3 Comments
      • 1.1.4 Vote to strike objection (AC only)

Brissa

  • Nominated by: Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 07:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: We'll see if this becomes a FAN
  • Date Archived: 22:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Final word count: 946 words (186 introduction, 668 body, 92 behind the scenes)
  • WookieeProject (optional): Wookieepedia:WookieeProject Comics

(4 ACs/0 Users/4 Total)

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Support

  1. ACvote —spookywillowwtalk 16:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. ACvote TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Lewisr (talk) 21:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Nice work! Panther436 (talk) 00:29, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Object

Anil
  • (Reviewing note) Per the Manual of Style, image captions that constitute full sentences should receive a period (full stop).
    • Noted
  • Since the issue itself doesn't refer to the War of the Bounty Hunters or the Rescue of Han Solo, could you please change that date note to something like the one you did for Rodrigu Battle?
    • Changed
  • Could you note that they spoke Basic if we know that?
    • Added
  • The reason why the droids selected Tolvan and Kelb is only explained in the intro.
    • Added Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 16:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Do you think Tolvan's crew's mission to the Silver Arrow warrants its own article?
    • Added Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 11:29, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  • I believe the article body could use a revision as I feel like some of it is a bit too play-by-play, like as it's written for the Plot summary on the comic's Wook page.
    • Per my response below
  • Kinda a part of the objection above, the article should present the events in a more chronological manner, in my opinion. For example, the beginning of the article only notes that something happened to the Silver Arrow and documents the rebels' speculations about it but doesn't explain the actual reason until the very end. So it's presented as a reveal for both the readers and the in-universe characters at the same time, in a sense. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 04:20, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I did a slight revision and restructuring of the biography section. Let me know if the issue is still not resolved. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 12:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
      • It reads much better, but I still feel like the droid takeover should be introduced as the cause of the distress call when it was first mentioned instead of keeping it as a reveal until the crew itself realizes it. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 17:07, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
        • Ahh okay, changed. I think I misunderstood the initial objection. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 04:50, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
          • Thanks! TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:17, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Panther
  • If Brissa and their crew went to the base because Leia called them there, could you make that clearer by stating it earlier?
    • Done
  • The bit about Kelb in the middle of that second paragraph seems like it should be shortened, as it's not super relevant to Brissa and is pretty play-by-play. With that, the beginning of the third paragraph could then be moved into the second to make that one less chunky
    • Made it a bit broader instead of focusing on Kelb
  • I think that the second image caption could be more specific, probably including what they found and where
    • Done
  • I also think that the beginning of the third paragraph can by condensed more, mainly the sentence about Tolvan and the two that follow it.
    • Done
  • Brissa's line telling the crew to ignore the Scourge's threats should probably be included briefly
    • Added
  • Do you mind swapping the positions of all of the images so that the long one at the end can be on the right and not interfere with the Skills subheading?
    • Done
  • In the equipment section, all of items should be said to have been used during the mission to the Silver Angel, rather than those bits at the beginning being just said in general Panther436 (talk) 22:35, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I've moved the blaster to only during the mission, but as far as clothing goes, they already wore it before the start of their Silver Arrow mission. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 05:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
  • (Review note) Sorry about the delay! Sad to see Brissa's confirmed dead
    • No worries!
  • How do you feel about just completely cutting the 4th sentence of the biography, seems not too relevant
    • I think it's fine to help establish zero imperial involvement with their case, especially since they were just done after an Empire-related mission.
      • I think that's pretty clear from the sentence in that paragraph explaining that it was the Scourge though Panther436 (talk) 01:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
        • Removed
  • Since you include all the other crew members' species when introduced, can you add Kelb's for consistency?
    • Added.
  • I think it's worth specifying again in the 3rd paragraph that the droids were controlled by the Scourge, maybe added to the "hivemind" sentence
    • Added
      • Can you do this in the 2nd paragraph of the intro too? Panther436 (talk) 01:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
        • Done
  • I think the bit in the P&t about about other members of the species having the head bumps needs to be cited to something with other Ikkrukkians in it like the issue of the Poe Dameron comic Panther436 (talk)
    • Added. Used The High Republic — The Blade 1 instead. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 17:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
  • It's unclear what they were having doubts about in the 2nd paragraph of the bio. Panther436 (talk) 01:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
    • Added Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 20:32, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Lew
  • "Brissa was a capable navigator, being part of Tolvan's crew who managed to find the Silver Arrow from the little lead they got" I'm not sure how accurate this is in regards to Brissa, since Kelb was the navigator and who Tolvan assigned to tracking the ship (per issue 36) Lewisr (talk) 20:46, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
    • Changed and reworded. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 12:56, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
      • I still think it needs further changing, possibly to note about what Leia says about the crew performing miracles Lewisr (talk) 01:04, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
        • Added Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 05:21, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
          • I made a bit of a change, does that work with you? Lewisr (talk) 03:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
            • Works for me Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 06:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • That Brissa was killed should also be in the biography Lewisr (talk) 05:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
    • Added
  • I think it should also be noted per issue 38 that Brissa's tracker was no longer active Lewisr (talk) 05:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
    • Brissa's tracker being inactive was never mentioned, only that Magna's still is. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 17:18, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
      • The implication from the way Sana says about Magna's "luckily" "still" being active, as well as Alyssa's confirmation the others were killed, is that the others trackers and signals aren't active Lewisr (talk) 19:01, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
        • Added Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 19:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Macaroni
  • In the bts, you should mention the actual series title, and you shouldn't describe it as a 2020 series – I know that's how we disambiguate it for our own purposes, but it's confusing to a reader to say that it's a 2020 series but was published in 2023. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 23:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
    • To note that's not just for our purposes and also how Marvel.com names them for example and per the CT where this policy was changed. There's also pretty widespread precedent for mentioning that it's a 2020 (or whatever year) series across the various series Lewisr (talk) 01:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
      • Done. Thought I added it, but I guess I missed it. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 20:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
    • Per my response above. Got a warning on discord that I haven't addressed it yet. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 10:15, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Objection(s) overridden by AgriCorps 22:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 22:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


Vote to strike objection (AC only)

  1. ACvote For the ones dated/addressed mid-February.—spookywillowwtalk 21:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Fan26 (Talk) 21:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Lewisr (talk) 22:00, 4 March 2024 (UTC)