Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/233rd

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233rd

  • Nominated by: Kilson Likes PIE(The Bakery) 22:22, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Guest nom for WP:A. I already have the battle up, so I might as well do the losers too.

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Clone Commander Lee Talk 16:20, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
  2. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 12:44, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
  3. ACvote—Tommy 9281 Thursday, April 14, 2011, 17:04 UTC
  4. ACvote For the record, I do assume full responsibility for the page move. :p Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 23:10, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Dunno if this belongs in Category:Imperial starfighter squadrons—there seems to be other units than just squadrons there—but whatever. 1358 (Talk) 17:19, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Object

MasterFred
  • The Bts says the article goes with the "fighter wing" side, but the CSWE was published later. Don't we usually go with the latest canonical source if two sources conflict? MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 17:33, April 13, 2011 (UTC)
    • You are right Fred, changed the article and moved it. I'm currently doing the same thing to my corresponding nom. Thanks for the review. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 02:36, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
Moffship
  • I've been wondering why you chose to go with the CSWE's description of a fighter group over the original comic's description of a fighter wing. The more I think about this, the more I believe that the CSWE made a mistake. In a case like this, I'd go with the original source's description, since Stackpole intended the 233rd to be a fighter wing. (This objection would also apply to the First Battle of Ord Biniir nom.) Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 14:45, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
    • I changed it because of Fred's objection to the First Battle of Ord Biniir nom. The CSWE is the most recent canon source, so I believe we should go with that. However, I'm willing to change it back if you think it's best. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 16:08, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
      • I suppose it would help if I read others' objections first. :p However, the CSWE is not infallible. In fact, the CSWE entry on the 233rd is taken verbatim from the CUSWE (the only difference is the capitalization of the "w" in "Y-wings"). Since many CUSWE entries contain inaccuracies that border on fanon, I would strongly suggest that you use "fighter wing" instead of "fighter group." This, however, would require that the article be moved to "233rd," and not "233rd Imperial Fighter Wing," since The Making of Baron Fel only refers to it as the 233rd. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 16:27, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
        • I see what mean now. I moved that article and made the corresponding changes. Tell me if I missed anything. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 16:56, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
          • Much better. However, I would avoid saying that the CSWE is "riddled with numerous inconsistencies;" just clarify that you chose to go with what was presented in The Making of Baron Fel over the info found in the CSWE. (This would also apply to the other nom.) Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 18:53, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
            • Ah, I did not realize this. :P Yeah, I agree with GMT. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 19:09, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • I know we don't have any kind of formal layout for organizations, or starfighter groups, for that matter, but I think it would be best if the article designated some kind of "Organization" subsection to detail the squadron's internal structure, even if it's probably only going to be that one sentence. Maybe look at some of our other starfighter group status articles for inspiration of how to do it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:23, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
    • Given the article's length and the amount of information we know about the 233rd, I believe an Organization section or subsection would just be out of place and unnecessary. All the section would say would be, "The 233rd was an Imperial fighter wing composed of approximately six squadrons." which I think is better said in the History section. I will put one in if you think it is absolutely necessary. Kilson(Let's have a chat) 23:33, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 04:59, April 19, 2011 (UTC)