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Daine Jir/Legends
- Requested By: Hanzo Hasashi (talk)
- Date Requested: 20:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Date Archived: 04:22, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Object
- In light of the significant changes done to the article. This is redux, not review for problems per se. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Eye color is missing.
- Can we tell the eye color? Looks like it could be green or blue? I thought it's hard to tell. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:54, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- There's some duplicate links to be removed.
- Various contexts missing for locations.
- The images can be increased in size, and the captions need to relate back to Daine.
- Dialogue additions in the IU portion that were done recently need to be prosified
- The "Questioning the Dark Lord" section has room for an image.
- Missing equipment and skills sections.
- Regarding the BTS updates, while a lot of it can stay, it really needs to be rewritten and there are some parts of it that need to be cut like the "The Empire's Finest" for fluff.
- Several authors/illustrators and full release dates for materials introduced need to be included, such as the comic adaptation, both 2007 sources since same year.
- The BTS doesn't document the non-canon appearance.
- Just inquiring as to whether the image in the BTS does need to actually have its text bubble whited? Lewisr (talk) 01:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- It seems that recent edits have made the article present certain additional lines from the radio drama and novel dialogue between Jir and Vader as fact. It doesn't seem there is room for those to have happened IU, to the point that relegating them to only behind the scenes discussions of inconsistencies is the best approach. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a policy about that? I would think that Wookieepedia would want to use all sources when they don't directly contradict each other. False Dmitri (talk) 17:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Comments
- Note that included among the changes, the user asserts it was Jir who beat Antilles in the radio drama, when originally it was concluded that was Unidentified stormtrooper commander (Tantive IV). I can maybe see his assertion that the original analysis might be inconclusive, with it being the latter character as verifiable. However, I'm not exactly seeing the proof that makes it Jir, instead of ambiguous between Jir, Nahdonnis Praji, maybe the unnamed trooper, or a separate character period. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:20, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- In the radio drama, all three of those scenes are presented as the same character: the adapted scene where it's Jir and Vader and, before that, the two new scenes where he hails the Tantive and then beats Antilles. It's all one actor, and the script designates them as one person ("Commander"); other unnamed parts in the script for that episode are carefully distinguished when they are meant to be separate people (1st Trooper, 2nd Trooper, etc). In this situation, I would think you would need some compelling reason to judge these to be different characters. In the case of the hailing, such a compelling reason exists, namely a later novel that provides a retcon with the name of Praji. No other source ever adapted the beating scene, so I don't see any need to reject the radio episode's clear meaning. False Dmitri (talk) 17:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Marked as on probation at 1 month unaddressed. Lewisr (talk) 02:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
