- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Zona Luka
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 02:24, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Let's give this another go.
(5 Inqs/0 Users/5 Total)
Support
Pre-nom review. Cylka-talk- 03:40, October 6, 2010 (UTC)- Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 15:24, October 10, 2010 (UTC) 
Your A'Sharad Hett to my Dark Woman :P—Tommy 9281 18:32, November 19, 2010 (UTC)- CC7567 (talk) 23:17, November 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:35, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
Object
Tommy:
Have you addressed all the objections from this article's previous nomination attempt? If so, please point me to the changes that I might review them.—Tommy 9281 19:41, October 20, 2010 (UTC)- I have addressed the objections from the previous nom. However, there is no one edit where I addressed all of them at the same time, so I can't point you to the changes. Why can't you just review the article as it is now? IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 22:58, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
Because with just a glance I can see that several of my original objections still have not been addressed.—Tommy 9281 00:04, October 21, 2010 (UTC)Well if some aren't addressed, why can't you post which ones aren't so I can address them? IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:17, October 21, 2010 (UTC)Because you've been through the process enough times that you shouldn't have to be spoonfed the things you should already know. Tommy9281 doesn't repeat himself; he's not about to start now just because an experienced article nominator repeatedly fails to make sure his or her nominations are up to par upon submission.—Tommy 9281 00:21, October 21, 2010 (UTC)- Well how in the hell am I supposed to fix what's wrong if you, the reviewer, won't tell me what's wrong? I have tried to ensure that your previous objections were addressed; if they weren't addressed, I wouldn't have nominated the article again. And quite frankly, I can't do any work on this article if I don't know what work is to be done. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:27, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
Then you shouldn't be nominating things if you aren't sure of their completeness. And your Administrator's badge does not give you a pass to be uncivil. You would do well to take heed.—Tommy 9281 00:36, October 21, 2010 (UTC)- I am not trying to be uncivil; I am just frustrated because you won't work with me here. And I was sure of its completeness and readiness to face to FA nom process, which is why I nominated it again. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:38, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, Floyd, but I cannot work with you any more than I already have. The fact remains that the article is incomplete, and is still marred by things to which I had originally objected. If I go through and make all the necessary changes, then I might as well also see it through the process myself. I suggest one last time that you thoroughly review the original objections, and make sure that they are completely and satisfactorily addressed.—Tommy 9281 00:53, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
- I am not trying to be uncivil; I am just frustrated because you won't work with me here. And I was sure of its completeness and readiness to face to FA nom process, which is why I nominated it again. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:38, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Well how in the hell am I supposed to fix what's wrong if you, the reviewer, won't tell me what's wrong? I have tried to ensure that your previous objections were addressed; if they weren't addressed, I wouldn't have nominated the article again. And quite frankly, I can't do any work on this article if I don't know what work is to be done. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:27, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
- I have addressed the objections from the previous nom. However, there is no one edit where I addressed all of them at the same time, so I can't point you to the changes. Why can't you just review the article as it is now? IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 22:58, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
"After a period of deliberation, Luka, Crado, Oss Wilum, and the rest of the group that had listened to Kun's sermon in the Gardens, excluding Cay Qel-Droma, decided to join him on the trip. By the time the group met Kun at the entrance to a chamber, he was in possession of the Draethos Jedi Master Odan-Urr's robe and staff." It goes from them being in the gardens to meeting Odan-Urr in his chamber.- Addressed.
Also, the chamber has a specific name.- Addressed.
"…in reality, Kun had killed Odan-Urr after a short duel…" As far as I remember, they didn't duel.Changed to struggle, since that's more like what happened.
"Although Kun was lying, as he had taken the holocron from the murdered Master, Luka and the other Jedi believed him."Two things:Sentence needs to be fully rewritten in the past tense. Trust me, it can be done.- Done.
It also needs to be written from Luka's POV. I understand that some points need to be written otherwise (and several of them I haven't changed), but this one can be changed without taking anything away from the article's content or quality.- Done.
"Massassi warriors—members of the warrior class of the Sith species that came to the moon after Dark Lord Naga Sadow settled there in 5000 BBY—" Your context on the Massassi is incorrect.- Addressed.
One of the original objections, the underlinking persists. I added a few things that I think you probably weren't aware of (please take note of the changes), but the others are things that you are familiar with and will need to rectify.- Finally addressed. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 03:59, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
- I have to stop here for now. I commend you on the fixes you made so far, but there is still much to be done, including the complete handling of the original set. I do want you to take please notice of the changes I made in the last two edits; several of the changes I made (some fluff, linking, etc.) had to do with the original set of objections. It became apparent to me, however, when reviewing your last few edits that you probably didn't understand what I meant by several of the objections, and that's not entirely fair to you as a nominator, so I apologize for not making them as clear for you as possible. Keep on truckin though, this thing might yet make it through.—Tommy 9281 00:13, October 28, 2010 (UTC)
- I gotcha. No worries about your objections being unclear or anything; it was my fault that they weren't fully addressed. And dammit, I will make sure this makes it through. :P IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 02:57, October 30, 2010 (UTC)
Toprawa
The intro does a superb job of briefly explaining Kun's true identity: "Kun, in reality the Dark Lord of the Sith, commanded Luka and the Jedi team," but the bio doesn't really "reveal" this so clearly. Instead, it just randomly refers to him as a Sith Lord at one point near the end of the article: "Kun declared that he was going to destroy the device, and the Sith Lord instructed Luka's group..." I'd like to see the bio do a smoother job of introducing him as such at some point, like the intro does.Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:07, December 8, 2010 (UTC)- Done. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 20:32, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 20:35, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
- I just want to make it absolutely clear that this is strictly professional, and by no means a personal issue with the nominator. Floyd is, and always has been, a Wookieepedia friend of mine, one who I will ride to the ends of the galaxy for. However, I am an Inquisitor, an individual who has sworn to uphold and enforce the agreed upon standards set for the entirety of the FAN process, and this would be my normal course of action with any nominator if the situation warranted it.—Tommy 9281 19:54, October 21, 2010 (UTC)