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Uwana Buyer
- Nominated by: Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 12:33, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Uwana Reviewer
(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)
Support
- Plagueis327 (talk) 20:17, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
Uwana Buyer? I hardly know her! IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 23:41, August 14, 2012 (UTC)- Donwanna Buyer; the maintenance will kill ya. ~Savage
18:33, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
You just know that the Twi'lek Masseuse gives happy endings. Menkooroo (talk) 12:04, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
CC7567 (talk) 19:32, September 18, 2012 (UTC)- Terrible puns all around. Cade Calrayn
04:45, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
- Tweaked a sentence in the intro to avoid redundancy. Looks good to me. Trak Nar Ramble on 06:16, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
Object
Quick ones
Why is the exact same story listed four times in "Appearances?" If there are no changes to it made in any of the reprints, what's the logic behind listing it more than once?- Well, for sake of completeness. If we have a standardised policy on reprinted material, point me to it and I'll tweak it or contest it :P But I think that each listing is worth mentioning in this section in some form or another to indicate the publishing history. Firstly, although being reprinted three times, only once was the RPG info reprinted (in The Best of the Star Wars Adventure Journal). The other two did not include this info, so they are fundamentally different in some ways since info was removed. Also, hyperspace provided colourised version of images included with the story, which again sets it apart in terms of information.
It also seems strange that Tales from the Empire is the "Appearances" section. I've never seen a "Tales of" book listed as an appearance before; the individual tale is always listed instead.Menkooroo (talk) 14:35, July 11, 2012 (UTC)- Ah, good catch. I could create a "Tales from" template for use with the "Tales from" books to remedy this. - Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 14:46, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
- That's a template we should have made years ago! Do it! :D Menkooroo (talk) 14:51, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
- Annnnd ... created! - Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 17:37, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
- Annnnd ... created! - Cavalier One
- That's a template we should have made years ago! Do it! :D Menkooroo (talk) 14:51, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, good catch. I could create a "Tales from" template for use with the "Tales from" books to remedy this. - Cavalier One
Savaged…
Is it important to note that Gamgalon is a Krish in the intro? No one else's species is mentioned, so I'd just axe his too to be equitable. In the article proper, I'd done my best to insert unobtrusive species IDs for others, but feel free to tweak.- Just for you, Bob, I've added Human qualifiers throughout the intro.
- w00t w00t! :P ~Savage
14:18, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
- w00t w00t! :P ~Savage
- Just for you, Bob, I've added Human qualifiers throughout the intro.
The note about how much the ship was worth seems out of place. Could this be spun off into its own sentence? And is it possible to add context, since the value of something like this no doubt fluctuated? Or should this be taken as the price of the type of ship, not necessarily the Uwana itself? Assuming it is the Uwana specifically we're talking about, since we have a "new" and "used" price, we might indicate that the yacht was 1 million credits new. Then talk about Karrde using the ship. Then mention that "By [X ABY], the ship was worth 500,000 credits." Something like that.- The information about pricing relates to the Uwana Buyer specifically. No timeframe is given as to when this information is relevant. The information is stated, so it is in the article. Considering Karrde extensively modified the vessel, placing a used price anywhere after that information speculates that his modifications lowered the cost of the vessel.
- That's why I thought it was odd. Despite the ambiguity of the source material, it's still probably worth spinning if off into its own sentence. That said, I won't oppose over it. ~Savage
14:18, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
- That's why I thought it was odd. Despite the ambiguity of the source material, it's still probably worth spinning if off into its own sentence. That said, I won't oppose over it. ~Savage
- The information about pricing relates to the Uwana Buyer specifically. No timeframe is given as to when this information is relevant. The information is stated, so it is in the article. Considering Karrde extensively modified the vessel, placing a used price anywhere after that information speculates that his modifications lowered the cost of the vessel.
Can you give a bit of detail about what the classes of hyperdrive indicate? I know it's some sort of multiplier, but that's probably worth spelling out.- No. I see absolutely no reason to launch into an explanation of the hyperdrive classification system in an article relating to an individual vessel.
I don't mean a detailed explanation of the specifics, but rather some indication that Class One is faster than Class Eight. The addition of the word "slower" before "Class Eight" would suffice. It's not at all obvious from those names that One is faster than Eight, and we require context on lots of other things. ~Savage
14:18, August 31, 2012 (UTC)- Added. Although "Class Eight backup" should give some idea. Why use a Class One as a primary, if you've got an Eight stashed away? - Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 18:13, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
- Added. Although "Class Eight backup" should give some idea. Why use a Class One as a primary, if you've got an Eight stashed away? - Cavalier One
- No. I see absolutely no reason to launch into an explanation of the hyperdrive classification system in an article relating to an individual vessel.
Context on the Sif-Uwana Council.- They're a council. On Sif-Uwana. Seriously. The name is the only thing known.
- Bad Zahn! Bad! ~Savage
14:18, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
- Bad Zahn! Bad! ~Savage
- They're a council. On Sif-Uwana. Seriously. The name is the only thing known.
My dictionary doesn't list a verb definition for gimmick. Is this a BrE thing?- Maybe. But its usage is direct from the source.
All the better reason to find a synonym maybe? Would tweak or modify work? ~Savage
14:18, August 31, 2012 (UTC)- Gimmick: An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; any clever device, gadget, or stratagem, esp one used to deceive; gim·micked, gim·mick·ing, gim·micks - To change or affect by means of a gimmick. Seems like gimmick is the perfect word in this case for what was done. I also like the word. - Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 18:13, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
- It's the usage as a verb that's throwing me for a loop. But I see the dictionary you linked to has a verb definition as well: "To change or affect by means of a gimmick." So *grumble grumble* no problem. ~Savage
18:32, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
- It's the usage as a verb that's throwing me for a loop. But I see the dictionary you linked to has a verb definition as well: "To change or affect by means of a gimmick." So *grumble grumble* no problem. ~Savage
- Gimmick: An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; any clever device, gadget, or stratagem, esp one used to deceive; gim·micked, gim·mick·ing, gim·micks - To change or affect by means of a gimmick. Seems like gimmick is the perfect word in this case for what was done. I also like the word. - Cavalier One
- Maybe. But its usage is direct from the source.
Ditto "covers were rumbled."- Changed.
Can you add a date (the year would suffice) for when "First Contact" and the other mentioned works in BTS were published?- Added.
Can you indicate who illustrated the visual depiction of the ship in BTS? That's it. Nice work! ~Savage
12:51, August 31, 2012 (UTC)- Added. - Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 13:30, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
- Added. - Cavalier One
I do, I do wanna buy her
One nitpicky grammar one: "Posing as representatives of the Sif-Uwana Council, Karrde had one of his associates, a Human named Chin, gimmick the Uwana Buyer's hyperdrive by mis-aligning the power flux connector by four degrees." The plural "representatives" before the comma should necessitate Tapper being mentioned in the sentence as well, I think. Can you reword to make it clear?Menkooroo (talk) 07:06, September 5, 2012 (UTC)- Changed; Tapper wasn't the representative, merely a pilot. - Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 07:57, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
- Changed; Tapper wasn't the representative, merely a pilot. - Cavalier One
Attack of the Clone
"Kaj Nedmak and Celia Durasha": context for these two in the quote caption is needed, since they're not mentioned in the text of the article.- Done.
Same for Fleck.CC7567 (talk) 16:52, September 14, 2012 (UTC)- And done again. - Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 11:46, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
- And done again. - Cavalier One
Comments
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 03:40, September 20, 2012 (UTC)