Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Urgah

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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

Urgah

  • Nominated by: ~SavageBOB sig 13:33, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I hear Del Rey is bringing her back as a Sith Lord for their next nine-volume series. ~SavageBOB sig 13:33, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

(3 Inqs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 12:55, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Protectorate (talk) 19:45, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 00:25, December 21, 2013 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote CC7567 (talk) 21:26, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Man, I reviewed most of this a while ago. Just now finished up. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 19:17, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Object

4dot
  • A by-product of the material perhaps, but I feel that the intro delves too far into trivial information. It could surely just be relegated to 2 paragraphs of essential info.
  • "Gorneesh shook him until a bar was dislodged, which Urgah grabbed. " - A bit PBP
  • "babysitting nightmares" - POV... sorta.
  • Otherwise, awesome job. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 02:04, October 11, 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review! Points 1, 3, and 4 should be addressed. As for the shaking and soap grabbing, it's her one big action in the episode, so I'm having a hard time eliding it. In other words, if it were another Dulok's article, it would be worth glossing, but maybe not Urgah's or Gorneesh's... ~SavageBOB sig 12:24, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
Also
  • I added a link to "Wedding of Gorneesh and Urgah" to the intro, but I'm not sure if that was appropriate. The article seems to imply that there was a wedding, but if that's not the case, please advise.
  • There is no link to the raid on Bright Tree Village from "The Haunted Village". Does that deserve an article? I notice that the wiki puts the First Phlog crisis as the very first "Ewok conflict" for want of a better word, so maybe it just isn't notable, but you would probably know better.
  • I also linked the Battle of Bright Tree Village (First Phlog crisis) in "The Haunted Village" section, because it shows up in that article, but I'm not sure what the context of that battle is exactly. Can the aftermath of that battle where the Phlogs rough up the Duloks be included in a future article? Not really sure here.
  • Can we get a written out explanation for her tribe appearing in "Shadows of Endor". The sourcing lets us know that Giallongo intended for the swamp destroyed in that story to be Urgah's swamp, but it's not written out in the BtS.
  • That's it. Umwak next? :D Protectorate (talk) 20:50, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the very thorough review and edit! To answer your questions and explain my edits: I reviewed the episode, and there's never actually a mention of a "wedding" in A Gift for Shodu. Instead, we have talk of "I never should have married you" and "anniversary," but no mention of a ceremony. So, I've removed the link there. As for the battle with the Phlogs, it's really impossible to disentangle a "battle" from the "Phlog crisis" itself. The Phlogs are hurling rocks at the Ewoks pretty much the whole episode. I've removed the battle link from the Phlog crisis article, and from the Urgah article. I've added a note to BTS about Giallongo and Urgah's tribe; does that suffice. Finally, Umwak notes are all taken and ready to go. He's high on my to-do list! Thanks again. ~SavageBOB sig 16:41, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
      • Great job. Really enjoyable article. Protectorate (talk) 19:44, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
Hehehehehe. Queen of the rammed.
  • You seem to be missing a subsection at the beginning of the bio.
  • "To mark the occasion, Gorneesh gave Urgah a gift—which she promptly rejected as not good enough." Do we know what this gift was? IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 04:51, December 18, 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks for taking a look! The first section was just sort of an overview of facts we know about her that don't really belong to a single episode from her life. Then for the soap raid thing, her role was so minor that to give it its own section would have made it so I couldn't add the picture without messing up the wiki formatting. So, in other words, I opted for a picture rather than a subhead. The whole section could get a single subhead, but it would be a fairly empty one, in my opinion, as I think the section acts now as a kind of introduction to her biography. Make sense? As for the gift, the episode unfortunately doesn't say what it was. ~SavageBOB sig 18:27, December 18, 2013 (UTC)
      • I'd be fine with that if that part wasn't quite so long. 99% of character article bios start with the first subsection, so someone clicking on that section assuming that that's where the bio begins would be missing quite a lot. IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 00:55, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
        • OK, hadn't thought of that. How's that look? ~SavageBOB sig 14:09, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
Attack of the Clone
  • Is the destruction of the Dulok village the same event as the skirmish at the Endor shield bunker? If so, it should ideally be linked in ref 16. Otherwise, a new article should be created for the event.
  • "Thus, Urgah's membership in the tribe once headed by Vulgarr is uncertain." The chronology of this sentence isn't quite clear. Are you trying to say that Urgah's place in the tribe when Vulgarr was leader is uncertain, or something else?
    • Tried to clarify. Better?
  • Since Rebelscum.com has a page for her action figure, I would advise using it with {{HasbroCite}} in the Sources and in ref 29.
    • KennerCite, actually, which I think is fairly new. Done! ~SavageBOB sig 13:13, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
  • I realize that the Bts already explains her alternate "Lady Gorneesh" name, but since the intro presents the alternate name in IU text, the body of the article should ideally mention the alternate name too.
    • Done. ~SavageBOB sig 13:13, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
  • Are the four {{C}} annotations for the compilations/adaptations in the Appearances list really necessary? The Sources list already links to the individual pages, so the reader should be able to discern that they're compilations/adaptations by clicking the links if he/she is interested; it just seems a bit redundant. What do you think? CC7567 (talk) 01:55, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
    • I think this is a relic of when I started doing Ewoks articles and sometimes people would object if every source and appearance in the article-final list didn't also appear in footnotes. But I agree with you, so I removed it. Thanks for the very helpful review. Let me know if there's anything else! ~SavageBOB sig 13:13, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
Manoof
  • you mention AVERAGE height is 1.35, how do we know those males aren't above average, and she is exactly the average, or this tribe are all slightly above average? Or am i overthinking this?
  • "Prince Boogutt, the heir apparent to lead the tribe in 3 ABY." So is he leading the tribe from 3 ABY or was he born 3 ABY?
  • Any idea how many sith-spawn she hatched?
  • Could we get context time-wise when the lullaby was hummed (let them eat glock), even if it is just adding the words "Sometime later," or "not long after,"? Manoof (talk) 04:18, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

  • Just a note that I've added a paragraph describing the Duloks' role in Shadows of Endor. While Urgah doesn't appear herself, her tribe features fairly prominently. Please let me know if the level of detail is not enough or too much, however. Since Urgah's not there, we don't know how much of this she sees or doesn't see. Either way, I'd like to see how this goes in this nomination, because something along these lines needs to be added to the other status-level Dulok articles I've written. ~SavageBOB sig 13:08, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

  1. Inqvote I don't want to do this to a nomination that's this close to passing, but unaddressed objections are unaddressed objections. CC7567 (talk) 19:40, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:41, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Ugh. This pains me. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:24, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 00:49, May 2, 2014 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote INTENSIFYFORWARDFIRAHPOWAH JangFett (Talk) 00:49, May 2, 2014 (UTC)