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Unidentified Dulok (X)

  • Nominated by: ~SavageBOB sig 23:42, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Hopefully some source will eventually give the poor guy a name. ~SavageBOB sig 23:42, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

(4 Inqs/2 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 23:47, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Dulok the door when you leave, dear. Menkooroo (talk) 03:50, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:28, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Plagueis327 (talk) 03:24, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
  5. I second Menk's terrible pun. Cade Calrayn GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 04:31, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote CC7567 (talk) 05:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Object

X-cellent work
  • Since organizations are the norm for the "Affiliation" field of the infobox, would it be better to make it Gorneesh's tribe rather than King Gorneesh?
  • Watch out for over-linking in the bio: King, Gorneesh, Bright Tree Village, Malani, Unidentified Endor river --- regarding that last one, is it definitely the same river every time? The article only lists "Gone with the Mimphs" as an appearance.
  • Personality and traits also re-links a lot of things that are already linked in the bio.
  • X is italicized throughout the article, but not in the quote attributions. Any reason for the inconsistency?
  • I notice that you've recorded some uncertainty at the end of "Adventures in Babysitting"'s first paragraph. Is there an answer to the question? I feel like it should be figured out before the article gets the FA star.
  • "The Dulok with the bandage on his head revealed the plan" --- Which Dulok is that? This is the first time that the bio mentions a bandage/cloth around his head; it's only previously established in the intro.
  • When does he work with the arrow-shaped Dulok? The intro mentions the arrow guy, but the biography doesn't reflect this.
  • A super nitpicky one: The intro mentions Bright Tree Village's close proximity to the Dulok Swamp, but the bio doesn't... do you think it's worth establishing in the article body as context? If not, is it that necessary for the intro, either?
  • The P&T mentions that Asha was temporarily detained, but the bio makes no mention of this, instead presenting her as thwarting the Duloks' every attempt to catch her. If she was temporarily detained, can you mention it in the bio?
  • Any more applicable categories? Hunters, scouts, bodyguards, warriors... ? Menkooroo (talk) 01:46, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
    • I'm in finals hell at the moment, but I should be able to get to this over the weekend. I appreciate the review! ~SavageBOB sig 18:38, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
    • OK, finals done! Back at it. About the affiliation field, I'm really not sure. From the cartoons, we only ever see him being Gorneesh's lackey. Since Gorneesh is the leader of the tribe, I think an argument could be made for that as an affiliation, and I can change it if the precedent is just too overwhelming in that direction, but it makes more sense in my view to leave it as Gorneesh himself.
      • Given the precedent, I think it should be the group, yeah, or, even better, the group with King Gorneesh bulleted below it. Oooooh, I like that. Menkooroo (talk) 01:57, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
    • As for the river, I'm not sure what to do. We don't know it's the same river each time, although it very easily could be There are lots of rivers in the Ewoks cartoon, all of them unnamed. Should I create a separate article for each and note that they could be the same, or should we lump all the appearances into one article and note in the BTS that they could all be different?
      • To be honest, the rivers don't really seem article-worthy. Jettisoning the link altogether is my suggestion. Menkooroo (talk) 01:57, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
    • I'm still not sure if he's in that last scene of Rampage of the Phlogs, and the public server I'm using to access the web is blocking YouTube. I'll check on this ASAP, though. Everything else should be fixed! ~SavageBOB sig 21:10, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
      • All right, all should be addressed. I decided to play it safe on the rivers and give them their own articles. Thanks again for the review, and please let me know if there's anything else. ~SavageBOB sig 03:05, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • In the affiliations field in the infobox, would it not be more appropriate to list "King Gorneesh" before his tribe?
  • It would perhaps seem appropriate to at least leave a redlink for this personal hut if no article exists: "outside his personal hut."
  • If the notes and referencing is going to use page numbers for printed works, this should be applied to all references. I notice that no page numbers are included for reference 13, the Wicket's Wagon book. Please revise if possible.
  • This isn't an objection, but rather a note for the rationale of my changing of the "Forest Moon of Endor" pipelinks. I disagree with breaking up dependent clauses like "Forest Moon of Endor" into separate entities on the initial linking. We wouldn't do that for anything else (examples like [[Atmosphere|Cloud]] [[City/Legends|City]], [[Ordnance/Regional Depot|Ord]] [[Ord Mantell/Legends|Mantell]], [[Galactic Empire/Legends|Imperial]] [[Navy/Legends|Navy]], etc. etc.). As someone else put it once, it strikes me as just being unnecessary linking for the sake of linking. There's no critical need in this instance to link to the planet Endor. If you prefer to link to it on subsequent mentions ("Forest Moon of [[Endor (planet)/Legends|Endor]]," etc.), I have no problems with that, but I think its primary mention deserves to stay intact. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:21, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review! As for "Affiliation," doesn't it tend to go from bigger to smaller units? Like, wouldn't we say, "Alliance to Restore the Republic" first and then "Rogue Squadron" below that in an article where that was appropriate? I honestly don't know what the preferred system is on this. Then for the hut, I can see that, but can you think of an analog? Like would it be akin to an article on Palpatine's office or something? I'll create the article, but I'm just curious about what to model it after. As for the pages of the Wicket's Wagon children's book, it actually has no page numbers, so I thought including them would be superfluous. I could count from the first page, but I tend not to do that on things that don't have printed page numbers (such as most Dark Horse comic books). But I can do so if you think it would be helpful. Finally, no problem at all about the Endor thing. I can see the argument either way, and have no preference in the matter. :) ~SavageBOB sig 00:58, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
      • Affiliation: Yes, you're correct in that they go bigger to smaller. Since we call it "Gorneesh's tribe," I'm interpreting that as meaning that the tribe only exists because of and is subordinate to Gorneesh, much like the Empire exists because of Palpatine and is subordinate to him. If we were listing someone's affiliation being to Palpatine, for example, I would think we would list him above the Empire, which is what made me wonder about this instance. But if I'm misinterpreting Gorneesh's relationship to the tribe wrong, let me know. Hut: Palpatine's office is probably a good comparison. Maybe even Jabba's throne room. I just assumed it was a recurring location where he lived and/or held court, etc., which we could create an article for. At any rate, if you do keep that redlink, that would put the article at four redlinks currently. Page numbers: Yeah, that's fine, no need to include them. Endor: Ok, good deal. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:26, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
        • Cool. The affiliation thing should indeed be read that way; the article is called "Gorneesh's tribe" for lack of a better name; it could just as easily be "Unidentified Dulok tribe." For that reason, I think it makes more sense to leave things as is. The red link issue should be dealt with, which I think should be your last objection. Let me know if there's anything else, of course. ~SavageBOB sig 03:24, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
Attack of the Clone
  • Currently there are four redlinks; please try to take care of at least one. CC7567 (talk) 21:55, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
    • Ah, thanks for the review. Should be good now. ~SavageBOB sig 14:57, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 05:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC)