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Tedryn-Sha

  • Nominated by: QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 16:17, March 14, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I'll stop with all those noms, I promise...

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Support

  1. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 17:29, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Exiled Jedi (talk) 18:01, May 27, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote 1358 (Talk) 21:45, July 7, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Enjoyed reading this. Imperators II(Talk) 09:22, October 17, 2018 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:26, October 24, 2018 (UTC)
  6. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 18:40, October 24, 2018 (UTC)

Object

AV
  • Do we have any information on who voiced Tedryn-Sha is the audio drama?
    • No, we don't, unfortunately. Back when I was writing Xecr Nist, I was asking around people who actually owned the physical copy of the audio drama. Turns out, the only darksiders who are credited are Sedriss QL and Vill Goir. The voice actors for all the others are not listed anywhere.
  • Looking at how the article is formatted in Oasis, you should be able to fit a second image in the "Incursion" section of the biography. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 18:08, March 14, 2018 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • FAN Rule 14 now requires "images of the highest quality to illustrate the article, as source availability permits." What that basically means for comic book images is that you should be using digital versions of comic panels rather than the old scans that we've been using. All of Dark Horse's Star Wars library is available in digital format through one outlet or another. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:14, March 29, 2018 (UTC)
  • Question: Does any source actually refer to the character as just "Sha"? Because it's possible the character doesn't have a first or last name, and is simply Tedryn-Sha. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:09, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
    • He is referred to as "Sha" in the final issue of DE II. (Executor Nist! I've lost contact with Sha and Mordi) In the same issue, he is also addressed as simply "Tedryn" multiple times (Take him, Mordi! Yes, Tedryn!… By the dark side, Tedryn—more Jedi!) Based on that, it is evident that his name can in fact be split into two parts. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 19:29, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm thinking the intro quote would be more effective and to the point if you removed the partial second sentence.
  • I realize your formatting for the audio drama quotes are interpretive, but five dots seems a little excessive for the penultimate line. Is that really necessary? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:27, October 24, 2018 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • Does The New Essential Chronology state that he died in 10 ABY? If it doesn't mention his death you will need to write a reference note for his death date.
    • Well, it does mention "Imperial commandos, who killed Jem Ysanna," which is why the NEC is listed as in indirect mention in Source. I guess that it doesn't necessarily mention Sha's death, so I've expanded the ref. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 13:47, April 25, 2018 (UTC)
  • Right now, the date of Tedryn-Sha's death is infobox-exclusive. You mention when the previous clone of Palpatine dies, but you never really state when the events mentioned in the body actually happen.
  • As the BTS presents a different chain of events in the audio drama, shouldn't this article use Template:Twoconflicting?
  • What is the reasoning for him being in the category Jedi hunters? You don't link to the article anywhere and I'm seeing anything in the article that suggests he was tasked with hunting down Jedi on a regular basis.
    • Wouldn't participating in the mission to abduct Skywalker qualify Sha as a Jedi hunter, though? QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 13:47, April 25, 2018 (UTC)
      • I would argue that for us to classify someone as a Jedi hunter they would need to be identified as one by name or be described as an individual who frequently hunts down Jedi.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 18:26, April 29, 2018 (UTC)
  • In the article, you link to Imperial Advisor. If this is the case, the article should be in Category:Imperial Advisors.
    • Added. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 13:47, April 25, 2018 (UTC)
      • I talked with some of the others Inqs about Imperial Advisors and apparently Imperial Advisor is a specific title. Not everyone who is an advisor of the Emperor was an "Imperial Advisor," so the CSWE cannot be used to source that he was an Imperial Advisor.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 18:26, April 29, 2018 (UTC)
  • "Skywalker was healed from the poison by the Jedi Vima-Da-Boda" Is the healing mentioned here: Force healing or just normal medicine?--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:15, April 24, 2018 (UTC)
  • When Sha and Nist get empowered by Palapatine, the comic says that "The magnitude of Palpatine's empowerment causes a great disturbance in the Force." This seems noteworthy enough to mention in the article.
  • "and he could intercept a blaster bolt fired at him by Organa Solo with his bare hand." It's hard to tell with the artwork, but it looks to me that he is wearing gloves.
  • The CSWE provides the detail that Sha was cleaved in two. Please note this detail in the article.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 18:26, April 29, 2018 (UTC)
Tommy
  • "a command that took his newly-appointed Dark Jedi by surprise." is this referring to Tedryn-Sha, Xecr Nist or both?
    • This is worded to be vague on purpose. In the comic, one of the Dark Jedi comments on Palpatine's order being surprising. However, with the Dark Empire's art being the way it is, it is impossible to determine whether it was Sha or Nist. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 10:14, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • "With the New Republic in disarray after the destruction of their base, Palpatine believed that his nemesis Luke Skywalker and a handful of Jedi he had managed to recruit would take refuge on the planet that served as the secret hiding place of Leia Organa Solo and her children—the twins Jaina and Jacen." Could this be split please?
  • In powers and abilities, could you restructure it so the 9 and 2 refs are together so they don't have to be repeated?
  • Could you get rid of the full release date ref for Dark Empire II 4 and just have the year?
  • I'd like to see Dark Empire linked in the into. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 20:36, May 5, 2018 (UTC)
Imp-Sha
  • First paragraph of P&T has two consecutive [9] references, please revise. Imperators II(Talk) 08:46, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
  • "The Initiation" — this sentence needs to be rewritten, for two reasons: "However, Beltane had secretly allied with the New Republic and had allowed them to smuggle New Republic soldiers within the droids." Firstly, New Republic is singular, not plural, therefore the pronoun "them" is used incorrectly. You'd do best to avoid any usage here of such a pronoun, whether singular or plural, whatsoever. Secondly, the two consecutive uses of "New Republic" lead to the sentence wording sounding slightly redundant and repetitive. Imperators II(Talk) 23:41, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • BTS — the "What the?!" line of the quote seems to me to be missing some punctuation, like a ellipsis or a dash. Imperators II(Talk) 23:41, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Any image for P&T and BTS? Imperators II(Talk) 23:41, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
    • Added. Also Bts slightly rewritten to flow better and be more factually accurate. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:31, October 16, 2018 (UTC)
  • In the Bio, you're talking about New Republic soldiers, and so they shouldn't be referred to as Rebel soldiers in the BTS, despite what some Imperial warlord may tell you. Imperators II(Talk) 23:41, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • You're referring to the soldiers as "commandos" in the BTS, which sounds specific enough to me to warrant the use of the term earlier in the Bio. Imperators II(Talk) 23:41, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • You're hyphenating "second-in-command" in the intro but not in the body. Imperators II(Talk) 23:41, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
    • Fixed the usage in the intro. The term is used without hyphens in the source. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:31, October 16, 2018 (UTC)
  • Also the intro calls Sha "Palpatine's second-in-command," while the body isn't that specific. Imperators II(Talk) 23:41, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • You know, I'd like to see some context for the rank of Executor, as it is currently unclear on the face of it why Nist ranks higher than Sha. Imperators II(Talk) 23:41, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Intro — "Later, Sha participated in an attack on the New Republic hideout on the planet New Alderaan. [...] Sha and the Dark Jedi Krdys Mordi infiltrated Skywalker's hideout" the wording here ("hideout") a) is repetitive, and b) doesn't really mesh with the Bio, where you talk about Skywalker's quarters instead. Imperators II(Talk) 23:41, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Which is Sha in the new P&T image? Can you insert a (left) or (center) in the caption? Imperators II(Talk) 22:22, October 16, 2018 (UTC)
    • I would love to be more specific, but I can't. Kennedy drew Sha and Nist to look almost identical (in fact, most of the Dark Side Elite look pretty much the same). In that entire scene, Palpatine never addresses them individually, making it impossible to tell which one is which, judging by the art alone. I think that Tedryn is the one on the left on that image, since the artist seemingly intended it to go in ascending order, from the lowest ranked darksider to the highest, i.e. Palpatine. However, that's only my personal opinion, which is not 100% confirmed by the source. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 06:00, October 17, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 18:48, October 24, 2018 (UTC)