Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Suljo Warde

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Contents

  • 1 Suljo Warde
    • 1.1 (4 Inqs/4 Users/8 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 Liverpool92
        • 1.1.2.2 Fan
        • 1.1.2.3 CC-8
        • 1.1.2.4 Macaroni
        • 1.1.2.5 ThrawnChiss7
        • 1.1.2.6 OOM
        • 1.1.2.7 UberSoldat
      • 1.1.3 Comments

Suljo Warde

  • Nominated by: VergenceScatter (talk) 01:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: First one, let's hope this goes well. Thanks to everyone who's helped me to get to the point that I feel confident enough to do this.
  • WookieeProject (optional): WP:FFGAMES

(4 Inqs/4 Users/8 Total)

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Support

  1. Happy to cast a support vote! Good work :) -- YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol (talk) 15:59, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
  2. Liverpool92Ackbar HS 03:39, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
  3. Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol (Ah, yes. The negotiator.) 13:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Boo Moraband Commander Code-8 Hello There! 09:03, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Nice work OOM 224 19:40, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Supreme Emperor Holocomm 05:50, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
  7. Lovely work! —TomotronRevanchist SithStar Forge 14:10, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
  8. Inqvote UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 08:18, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Object

Liverpool92
  • "Human" and "Male" or any other use of gender should be lowercase.--Liverpool92Ackbar HS 14:47, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
    • "Human" is always capitalized in legends, but I've fixed the "male." VergenceScatter (talk) 19:43, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Fan
  • Is "Assassins" meant to be capitalised in the intro? Fan26 (Talk) 14:08, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
    • No, it's not. Fixed. VergenceScatter (talk) 17:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
  • "Warde, who would later save Marcolf’s life in return, believed that Marcolf, a Force-sensitive, had the potential to join the Jedi Order, so he brought the Mirialan with him to the planet Arbooine—where Warde had been laying the groundwork for a Republic outpost—with plans to eventually bring him to Coruscant[1], the capital of the Republic." This is a run-on, please rectify. Fan26 (Talk) 23:41, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Rectified. VergenceScatter (talk) 01:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
CC-8
  • Context for Eriadu in the intro
  • The Republic seems like it could go in the infobox
  • Two of the quotes are missing punctuation
    • Still one to go Commander Code-8 Hello There! 23:04, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
      • Oops, fixed. VergenceScatter (talk) 23:11, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Images generally look better when they're placed below quotes, and doing it that way is more consistent with our other status articles
  • The Cato Neimoidia section should have another subsection rather than just one Commander Code-8 Hello There! 06:24, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
    • All done. VergenceScatter (talk) 15:50, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
  • It would be appropriate to add the years for the Clone Wars on their first mention, given that the article has a time jump
    • Added
  • Any chance of linking Warde's actions on Cato Neimoidia to an existing Clone Wars battle, or even creating a new article if the relevant info is mainly about the city?
    • Created a new article
      • This isn't an objection but I've accessed an online copy of the sourcebook and it uses the heading Battle for Jorra, which should be used as a canonical title
  • The first sentence of the Encountering the discovers section reads like we should already know that the holocron was discovered, could you adjust the wording there?
    • How's that?
  • It's not currently clear how Warde recognized the discoverers until later in that section
    • Should be fixed
  • I found a few instances of underlinking throughout the article, might be good to check for anything else Commander Code-8 Hello There! 10:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Went through, added a few more. Should be good now. VergenceScatter (talk) 00:32, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Chandrilan is intro exclusive
    • It's already in the bio.
      • I meant Chandrilan/Legends, not Chandrila
        • It says he's from Chandrila, which is the same as saying he's Chandrilan. I don't think it's intro-exclusive. VergenceScatter (talk) 16:31, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
          • What I'm more concerned about is that Chandrilan isn't linked in the body Commander Code-8 Hello There! 05:32, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
            • Linked. VergenceScatter (talk) 05:34, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Needs mediacat
    • Added
  • Gatekeeper is inconsistently capitalized throughout
    • Fixed.
  • There's quotes from the first page of Chapter II or III in the sourcebook that would suit the P&T
    • Used the one from Chapter II. I didn't use the Chapter III quote anywhere because it's unclear when he said it.
  • It'd be worth specifying that the discoverers had retraced Warde's steps after finding the holocron and learned about him from the people he affected
    • Done
  • There's quotes for the optional paths and alternate endings that could go in both of the latter Bts subsections Commander Code-8 Hello There! 09:24, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Added VergenceScatter (talk) 17:03, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
      • TIL the Layout Guide technically allows quotes to be used outside of the beginning of a section. Anyway there's still options for the final challenge and meeting section, even if its the ones quoted in that section Commander Code-8 Hello There! 07:49, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
        • Added. VergenceScatter (talk) 16:37, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Couple more things: Based on the quote in Warde's fall you can specify the names of all the characters mentioned there in the body
  • Could you split the second paragraph in Arrival and descent? Commander Code-8 Hello There! 09:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Both done VergenceScatter (talk) 05:38, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Macaroni
  • I count three one-paragraph sections. How would you feel about merging some of them? JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 14:53, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
    • Hmm, the problem is that doing so would prevent me from including the quotes that are in those sections. Do you think it's worth combining those sections if I have to get rid of the quotes? VergenceScatter (talk) 18:11, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
      • If that's the only reason not to, then absolutely. Quotes are added if sectioning allows, not the other way around. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:18, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
        • "Early life" and "Clone Wars" can easily be merged into something like "Early life and Clone Wars."
          • Done. Sorry about the wait, misread the message chain. VergenceScatter (talk) 19:38, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
  • We should avoid placing images next to consecutive paragraphs.
    • I'm going to disagree here. I believe all of the image placement on the article is fine. VergenceScatter (talk) 18:33, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
  • "Skills and abilities" has a one-sentence paragraph. I think that section can be two paragraphs, but they should be of around equal length.
    • Done;
  • Bts needs some more subsectioning. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:27, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
    • How's that? VergenceScatter (talk) 18:33, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
ThrawnChiss7
  • Under "Personality and traits" there is a red template that says "Template:Trust is a luxury I can no longer afford"ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 01:44, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Fixed. VergenceScatter (talk) 03:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Objection(s) overridden by Inquisitorius 14:44, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
OOM
  • There should be an additional subsection under "Early life and Clone Wars"
    • Added
  • The word "during" gets repetitive, particularly at the start of the Biography. See if you can cut some out.
    • Replaced a few, how's it looking now?
      • Awesome, looks much better now OOM 224 21:34, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Warde's species and gender are repeated between the Biography and the P&T; stating them in either one section is enough. OOM 224 10:00, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Removed VergenceScatter (talk) 20:42, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
  • Continuing the review, now that I've read through the article in its entirety…
    • "its gatekeeper, an artificial personality that could guide a future individual to the holocron's components" — there's no real need to state this info here, so how about merging it into the next paragraph, specifically "took comfort in the fact that the gatekeeper would remain to guide the finders of the holocron"?
      • Merged.
    • No quote for the "Arbooine" section? (or Equipment?)
      • I'd thought there weren't any available, but was able to find one for each.
    • "He was never able to understand why he had chosen to come to Moraband, even after years of contemplation, although his ultimate reason for doing so was that he saw that he would die on the planet" — I'm confused with the wording here. Are you trying to give the reason for Warde going to Moraband while also saying that he never understood the same decision?
      • That's how the book presents it. That's the reason in his head but he doesn't realize it. I tried to clarify it a bit, how's that?
        • Made a slight tweak, but otherwise it's good OOM 224 19:40, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
    • "where he kept a datapad full of ranting prophecies — heh, this almost sounds like me :P
    • There's enough space for an image under P&T, but I understand if you don't want to add one.
      • There's space but I don't think there's an image that fits there super well
    • Also, his quip about Moraband's weather is good P&T material.
      • Added
    • For Skills and abilities, I'd like it if you could specify how his power of foresight was different from that of other Jedi, as per the quote in that section. OOM 224 17:17, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
      • Done VergenceScatter (talk) 19:34, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
UberSoldat
  • Please ensure all image captions connect with this subject. Image captions that only name the subject depicted (e.g. Moraband) are a relic of status articles past, and one of the reasons they lost status later on. Their job is to tell me why the image is relevant to this article in the first place. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 19:55, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
    • I don't really understand how it's unclear how they're related to the article, but done VergenceScatter (talk) 20:26, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
      • The caption "Moraband" does not explain why Moraband is relevant to Suljo Warde. Also, there's still Gel Marcolf left, what is his role in Warde's history? UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 06:55, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
        • Literally anyone who reads the article will know VergenceScatter (talk) 07:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
          • I've added it, but I maintain that this requirement makes no sense unless you expect readers to be unable to read the article VergenceScatter (talk) 07:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
            • All I'll say is avoiding such a practice is only going against modern site-wide precedent. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 08:18, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Comments

  • Note that Chronicles uses "Moraband" throughout, so I've elected to use that name in the article instead of "Korriban." VergenceScatter (talk) 22:39, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 08:18, 15 June 2022 (UTC)