Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Shara Bey

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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

Contents

  • 1 Shara Bey
    • 1.1 (1 Inqs/6 Users/7 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 Cevan
        • 1.1.2.2 Floyd
        • 1.1.2.3 Exiled Jedi
        • 1.1.2.4 Toprawa
        • 1.1.2.5 SE
      • 1.1.3 Comments
      • 1.1.4 Comments
    • 1.2 Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

Shara Bey

  • Nominated by: Brandon Rhea(talk) 02:15, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:

(1 Inqs/6 Users/7 Total)

(Votes required: 2 Inqvotes required to reach minimum. No additional user votes required to pass, please consider reviewing another article.)

Support

  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:37, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
  2. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 02:56, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Cwedin(talk) 03:08, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
  4. Harshg (talk) 18:50, April 23, 2016 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Talk) 02:38, July 18, 2016 (UTC)
  6. --Lewisr (talk) 00:04, July 24, 2016 (UTC)
  7. The Brave Goldfish (talk) 15:52, October 21, 2016 (EET)

Object

Cevan
  • The opening credits of the third issue of Shattered Empire reveals that Bey and Dameron joined the Alliance prior to the Battle of Hoth, so it may be wise to somehow work that into the first section of the biography. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:19, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
    • Good catch. Added. And thanks for adding all those links. Honestly I generally have no idea that half of these pages even exist. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:35, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
      • No problem! Cevan IMPpress (talk) 16:37, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
Floyd
  • "One of the operations Bey undertook was the Beltire Liberation. Seventeen days after the Battle of Endor, Bey flew in a battle in Cawa City on the planet Sterdic IV." Are these two the same thing? If not, I think this could be rewritten to differentiate these better.
    • They're not. I'm not sure how best to rewrite it. Any suggestions? - Brandon Rhea(talk) 03:13, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
  • Seeing some linking issues. I've added some that you missed, but you should give it a once-over.
    • This is generally something I'm bad at since most of the subjects I miss are so minor, so thanks for adding what I (and Cevan, who also helped out) missed. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 03:13, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
  • I haven't read these comics, but Bey seems like she's a relatively major character. As such, the P&T looks very skimpy. IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:36, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
    • She is the main character. This is a comprehensive (if not brief) overview of her personality. This may not be something you can answer without having read the comic, but if you have suggestions for how to expand it then that'd be great. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 03:13, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
      • I would suggest doing another read-through of her comic appearances, and focus specifically on trying to parse through what she says and does to find aspects of her personality. That's usually what I do. No offense, but this reads like you wrote the bio and then kind of did this as an afterthought. IFYLOFD (Talk) 23:21, June 9, 2016 (UTC)
        • Forgot to update here, but I'm working on this. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:35, June 20, 2016 (UTC)
          • Shooting to finish this today. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 13:48, July 13, 2016 (UTC)
            • I've expanded the P&T. It's somewhat redundant to information throughout the article (which was why I kept it brief in the first place), but hopefully I've written it in such a way that makes up for that. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 19:05, July 14, 2016 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • Per FAN rule 9, this article cannot have any redlinks.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 02:47, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
    • Done. - The Brave Goldfish (talk) 15:52, October 21, 2016 (EET)
Toprawa
  • There must be something to put in an Equipment section for an article this long. Weapons, military uniforms (pilot uniform, specifically), devices are things that should be included here.
    • Do you have any standout examples of articles you like where characters who have various uniforms, etc are given good Equipment sections? I'm not entirely sure how to write this section so if you could point me to any examples you like then that'd be great! - Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:42, October 10, 2017 (UTC)
      • This is easier than you're probably making it out to be. Mul Sanaka, FN-417, and Frobb are solid, albeit limited-content, examples. I'd imagine you could probably get a little bit more out of this subject just because it's more extensive. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:05, October 11, 2017 (UTC)
        • Added this section. I think I've gone as detailed as I can. For example, I can't find a frame where I can make out what kind of blaster pistol she wears. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 21:20, October 23, 2017 (UTC)
  • Citing the third bullet point of Wookieepedia:Layout Guide#External links, SW.com Blog posts only need to be listed if they are of critical relevance or are cited in the course of the article. None of these are being cited, and I don't see that any of them are critical. We can tell the difference mostly by who is writing them. If they are from Star Wars authors or prominent Lucasfilm employees giving certain continuity or developmental insight into a subject, they are relevant; if they're just "Top 10 lists" or opinion blogs from fans, which these are, they are not critical. Therefore, they should be removed. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:55, October 4, 2017 (UTC)
    • I removed three of them, but I would like to make the case for the one that I kept. The franchise is generally based on fathers and sons. Mothers and their legacy aren't something that have been explored as much, at least not in canon, so I think highlighting Shara as a mother who plays a pivotal role in the saga provides a unique angle that's worth linking. What do you think? - Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:42, October 10, 2017 (UTC)
      • I would probably have no issue with its inclusion if it was even written by an actual Star Wars author. As I said, that's the elemental crux of "critical relevance," something that supplements article content by giving official insight into the story's creation. Like if the author of these comic stories wrote a blog about how she created this character as a way of touching on a literary element not as well explored in Star Wars. But that's not what this is. This is a fan's unofficial, subjective take on storytelling, and we're not here to highlight fan analyses. Her perspective isn't any more critical or important than anything someone might write for Fandom.
        • Removed. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:43, October 23, 2017 (UTC)
  • Due to some template restructuring, there are now several external links in this article that require Archive backup links. Please also check the existing SW.com backup links to make sure they work, as archived versions of SW.com pages from approximately summer 2017 to present haven't been working (if you let the page load long enough in Archive, it'll end up with a blank white page). Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:52, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
SE
  • "Shara Bey was born some time prior to the Galactic Civil War and grew up during the reign of the Galactic Empire." Can you give a date for the start of the Galactic Civil War here?
  • Likewise for the Battle of Hoth in the same paragraph. Supreme Emperor (talk) 06:13, November 10, 2017 (UTC)
    • Both are done. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:12, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

The article has been updated to include new information from Star Wars: Poe Dameron: Flight Log. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:34, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

  • The reason I bring this up here is because it was added long after I voted in support, but I notice someone has added Rampant Squadron to her affiliation list however it's not mentioned in the main article. Does flying assist for a squadron make her a part of that squadron? Seems better to remove that from the infobox --Lewisr (talk) 13:06, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
    • Flying assist would not make her part of that squadron, no, so I removed it from the infobox. I did, however, add the fact that she flew assist into the Biography. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 15:24, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

This article has been updated to include new information from Star Wars Battlefront II. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:25, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

Leaving this here in case you didn't see my message on your talk page Brandon, Star Wars: The Last Jedi: The Visual Dictionary states that Poe wears the Shara's wedding ring on a necklace, waiting to one day share it with the right partner. Not sure if you want to add it in but thought I'd let you know --Lewisr (talk) 16:56, December 20, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

  1. Inqvote Idle objection past two weeks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:31, March 26, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Imperators II(Talk) 19:32, March 26, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Two weeks is two weeks. 1358 (Talk) 19:42, March 26, 2018 (UTC)