Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Rogoe/Legends

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  • 1 Rogoe
    • 1.1 (4 Inqs/3 Users/7 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 Floyd
        • 1.1.2.2 Savaged…
        • 1.1.2.3 LelalMekha
        • 1.1.2.4 Igorogo
        • 1.1.2.5 Cadeth
        • 1.1.2.6 Toprawa
      • 1.1.3 Comments

Rogoe

  • Nominated by: Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 03:10, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:<insert dramatic trumpet fanfare followed by drumroll then cymbol crash> Presenting my first Featured article! Yeah! Woooooo! Hurrah!

(4 Inqs/3 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. I daresay that had he won, The Phantom Menace would've been a better movie... ~SavageBOB sig 13:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. LelalMekha (talk) 10:54, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 23:54, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Menkooroo (talk) 03:47, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
  5. Cade Calrayn GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 21:25, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 15:43, March 4, 2013 (UTC)
  7. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:03, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

Object

Floyd
  • Most of the quotes are missing punctuation.
  • Intro: Is there any motivation for why Rogoe would want the tribes to fight?
  • Intro: "Rogoe believed that if Gallo were to take a side, he would be able to defeat him," The "he would be able to defeat him" sounds just a little vague.
  • The bio sections are, by and large, too small to warrant their own sections. Fix this.
    • Just thinking this over, I know I've removed all of the sub-sections, but would it be alright if I put two sub-sections in the history? Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 10:58, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Early life: "being determined for it to stay that way" Stay what way? This is rather awkwardly worded and doesn't really fit the surrounding parts.
  • This could really use a good copyedit. I'm finding a lot of errors.
    • Done all of the above, I'll try to check this whenever I can. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 02:52, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
  • Words like "wouldn't" are not encyclopedic language and should be changed.
  • Early life: "insidious" is POVish.
    • That wording comes from Rogoe's CSWE entry, does it need to be sourced to that? Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 02:52, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
      • Eh, I guess it couldn't hurt. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 23:01, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
        • Done. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 04:10, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
  • Is there enough for an article on Hoxie's kidnapping?
    • I wasn't too sure about that, I put the question on Hoxie's current GAN, but haven't had a response yet. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 02:52, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
      • Well, I assume you would know better than most other people. What do you think? IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 02:54, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
        • I reckon it should have an article, I'll create it tomorrow. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 11:27, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
          • Tomorrow came a bit later than expected but created now. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 07:29, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
            • Not seeing it linked. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 23:52, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
              • Forgot to, linked now. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 03:38, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
  • Context on the Guds.
  • Article for Gallo's forest base?
  • "including destroying one of his spaceports" Whose spaceport? Rogoe or Gallo?
  • Context on Bongo.
  • "Rogoe jeered at the attackers, telling him that he would not be able to pass the energy shields protecting his keep," "telling him that he would not be..." doesn't fit with the previous statement that Rogoe was talking to the attackers as a whole. Fix this.
    • Not seeing this one fixed. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 23:01, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
      • Don't know what happened there. Fixed. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 04:10, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
  • Is there any info on exactly how Rogoe died? Was he slain by one of Gallo's men?
    • In the game you destroy Rogoe's keep and then he dies, so there's no exact way of knowing how he died. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 02:52, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
  • Needs work. Fix these and I'll take another look. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 01:14, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
    • My first FA attempt, bound to be plenty of mistakes. All objections that aren't individually marked have been adressed. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 02:52, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
Savaged…
  • As a title, "boss" should be capitalized throughout. (Yes, we have a really dumb rule about this that disagrees with every style guide on the planet, but no one's created the CT to change this yet...)
    • Umm...this policy says that titles should only be in caps if it refers to a character
      • The policy is in desperate need of revision, as it is entirely contradictory. I'll strike this, but, rest assured, someone will probably object over this, or else capitalize every instance of boss. :) ~SavageBOB sig 14:42, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
  • Are the events of this biography 3,000 BBY, or circa 3,000 BBY? The entry on Gallo says "around", indicating circa would be correct.
    • The Atlas definitely states in 3,000 BBY, by entry do you mean article or something else?
      • If the Atlas gives a precise date, then it's fine. I meant the Wookieepedia article for Gallo, which is using the "around" marker. ~SavageBOB sig 14:42, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
  • The biography is confusing -- how does he fade into obscurity while continuing to send out his armies to kidnap folks?
    • Done
  • Context on militiagung, as it's a non-Basic term.
    • Done
  • The Gallo article puts the optional destroy-the-bursas quest in game mechanics templates. Should the same be done here?
    • I don't think its necessary, since its not really connected to Rogoe.
      • Yeah, but the template isn't only for events related to the article subject; it's for stuff that has not been established to have occurred in canon. If the mission can be skipped and the final war with Rogoe still accomplished, it needs the template, I think. ~SavageBOB sig 14:42, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
      • Sorry; I misunderstood -- I just realized you're not referring to that mission in the article at all. Carry on then. ~SavageBOB sig 14:45, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
  • The individual spaceport destroyed probably deserves an article as a unique structure. Check out Gallo's article to make sure both link to the same article, as I raised the same objection in its FAN.
    • Redlinked, will be created at some point
  • Is Bongo supposed to be capitalized?
    • No, and I forgot to reply to this one earlier, fixed now. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 00:29, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
  • No need to link Rugor Nass's name in the quotes, since you link him in the body of the article.
    • Whoops, removed links
  • "The Gungan who would be Boss" -- is this the capitalization used in the game? It'd be more conventionally written as "The Gungan Who Would Be Boss."
    • I wrote it wrong anyway; the game has it like you've written it.
  • Check out the "legacy" section of Gallo's article. I think something similar should be added to this article, even if only to mention that Nass talked about him at some point in the future.
    • Isn't that already there?
      • D'oh. :P ~SavageBOB sig 14:42, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
  • I did a general copy edit to remove some redundancy. Check I didn't accidentally change the meaning anywhere! :) ~SavageBOB sig 21:30, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
    • Nope, all the changes are good, thans for that :) Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 07:27, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
LelalMekha
  • I think the picture in the BTS does refer to that guy it depicts as Rogoe. While the first line in Aurebesh onlyh reads as gibberish (or perhaps a coded message?), but the second line reads: "This is Boss Rogoe"—only "This is Boss Ro" in your picture since you cropped it, but I just checked the game. I know the picture isn't too satisfying, but I believe it should be used in the body of the article since it exists. --LelalMekha (talk) 12:25, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
    • Wow, didn't even think to check the Aurebesh. I've put a smaller version of that image in the infobox and updated the Bts to say he appears. I've also put the translated Aurebesh text as a quote in the Bts. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 00:19, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Igorogo
  • If he's the Boss of Spearhead, would Category:Mayors be applicable?
  • That he's specifically an Ankura Gungan is exclusive to the infobox.
  • Currently, "Rogoe was a male Gungan who was the boss of the city of Spearhead on the planet Naboo in 3,000 BBY" is all sourced to The Essential Atlas. The implication there is that Rogoe himself is mentioned in the Atlas; since this isn't the case, you should stick a reference to Battlegrounds after "the planet Naboo" so that the only thing sourced to the Atlas is "in 3,000 BBY."
  • Rogoe's army isn't linked in the article body until the Personality & traits section. Can you link it earlier on? Currently, when the biography discusses the battle of Spearhead, it doesn't mention Rogoe's army at all. It says that Gallo's army attacks and destroys the city but doesn't mention anything about the resistance that they faced. Surely they fought Rogoe's army?
  • Good job. Hopefully this is the first of many FAs from you. Menkooroo (talk) 13:51, February 15, 2013 (UTC)
    • Adressed all. Commander Code-8 G'day, mate 04:41, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
      • Great. Still looking for something on the army's role in the Battle of Spearhead, though; see the part of the objection that I left unstruck above. Menkooroo (talk) 05:01, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
        • Done now. Commander Code-8 G'day, mate 02:59, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
Cadeth
  • I think it would be best if you removed the "He then defeated the bursas remaining in his territory" part, as that's about Gallo. An easy fix would be to merge it with the preceding sentence, like so: "Gallo, however, was away from the city and survived to discover that Rogoe had massacred his people, and Rogoe's rival began a campaign to unite the Gungan tribes against Rogoe." The intro should really be about Rogoe himself.
    • Done.
  • The intro and bio have almost the same opening sentence... anyway you could change up the bio sentence?
    • I've changed it a little bit, is it enough? Commander Code-8 G'day, mate 21:21, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
      • Better, but I rejiggered it and the following sentences to make it flow better, as it was becoming a run-on sentence. Cade Calrayn GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 21:25, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
  • Otherwise, good work. Cade Calrayn GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 19:20, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Perhaps an article for the bursa clan he controlled? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:13, March 4, 2013 (UTC)
    • It was on my to be created list anyway :P Done. Commander Code-8 G'day, mate

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 16:03, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

About 1100 words. Fairly loose one for the barn-burner, but I figured if Cade can do Vitiate, then it should be fine. Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 03:13, December 31, 2012 (UTC)