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Revwien

  • Nominated by: Eyrezer 09:32, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I've been sitting on this for a while. A plant species with a long pedigree, they were recently given a reworking by Wizards of the Coast

(4 Inqs/2 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. I want to see a Revwien Sith! ~ SavageBob 16:53, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
  2. I made some spelling and grammar corrections. Looked pretty solid. Kinda reminds me of a cross-between of a pitcher plant and a bromeliad. Trak Nar Ramble on 04:13, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 02:46, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote 1358 (Talk) 14:47, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 20:44, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:37, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Object

Prepare to be savaged...
  • Just one for now: On a casual glance at the images, I see two images of Revwiens with red leaves. Shouldn't this be added to the infobox and B&A sections? The Revwien from Tales seems to have purple leaves, but I guess the dubious canonicity of that story doesn't require a mention in the main part of the article. ~ SavageBob 00:22, November 12, 2010 (UTC)
    • My screen is broken at the moment, and so it does not display color properly (Red seems to have failed, actually). Which are the two red pics? (So I can source properly.) --Eyrezer 09:47, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
      • OK. The infobox image and the one with the Revwien hanging out with the Jedi show Revwiens with red or reddish-orange leaves. ~ SavageBob 18:44, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
        • Done. --Eyrezer 10:53, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
  • "Tuition was conducted in open meadows and woods..." What's the meaning of "tuition" here? The first concept that comes to my mind is money paid for education, but I'm guessing this isn't what you had in mind!
    • My understanding is that tuition can simply mean teaching or instruction, which is the sense I intented here.
      • I checked the dictionary, and it appears the primary definition is the money paid for instruction, but there is a secondary definition of the instruction itself, so no worries. Caused a bit of dissonance, but I'm all for people learning new words. :) ~ SavageBob 18:44, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • Perhaps some context on the Han Solo quote? "Han Solo, [situation and how it relates to Revwiens]".
    • Added.
  • Article for the hypothetical ancient civilization?
    • Redlink added. It'll get to filling it shortly.
  • "the holy jungles" -- were all jungles considered holy, or only some? It might be worth noting this.
    • The equatorial jungle belt was considered holy. I've made some changes to clarify this.
  • There are some issues with linking terms multiple times.
    • I think I got them all.
  • Is there no generic "Revwiens in the galaxy" info to include in that section from GG12? At the least, another reference to the many Revwien Jedi helpers and missionaries is perhaps in order.
    • How about this? --Eyrezer 09:20, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
  • Perhaps worth noting that Cobb's sketches were specifically intended for additional cantina footage shot in California in closeups rather than the overarching, mid- and long-shot stuff shot in England. ~ SavageBob 05:30, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
    • Can you point me to a source for this? Then, I'll be happy to add it. --Eyrezer 09:47, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
      • Out of town at the moment, but I'll check when I get home. In the meantime, I think "Who's Who in the Mos Eisley Cantina" by Hidalgo discusses the fact that all cantina creature closeups were Ron Cobb designs. ~ SavageBob 18:44, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
        • We don't seem to have an article on that Who's Who. Can you give me another pointer? --Eyrezer 10:53, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
          • Ah, I got the name wrong. Try Cantina Roll-Call: Shedding Light on Some Alien Aliases. Specifically, "During the initial shooting of the sequence in England, Makeup Supervisor Stuart Freeborn was ill and could not complete enough aliens in time. Lucas later had to cajole 20th Century Fox for more money for reshoots, and photographed insert shots of booth-dwelling aliens crafted by ILM and Rick Baker." Also, this description of the Givin: "Another booth-based reshoot alien." Then, in Chronicles, p. 86, every Cobb alien but the Revwien is included on a page of "supplemental alien designs for additional U.S. shooting." Given together, this all seems to indicate very strongly that the Revwien was intended for the reshoots. There's probably a source out there that says this explicitly, but I'm not sure where. ~ SavageBob 16:06, November 30, 2010 (UTC) Sorry, didn't look hard enough. The Revwien drawing is on the page of reshoot aliens, Chronicles, p. 86. ~ SavageBob 16:07, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
            • Ok. Added into the BTS. --Eyrezer 04:36, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
It's a lamp!
  • Is it seedcase or seed case? Please be consistent.
    • Seedcase. Now fixed.
  • Can you merge the information on the leaves in the third paragraph of the B&A with the leaves information in the previous paragraph? Better keep it all in one, IMO.
    • I've organised it so that paragraph 2 deals with physical body shape -- limbs etc -- while paragraph three deals with all of their senses, etc. I honestly think it is fine the way it is.
  • "Very little perturbed Revwiens, who showed a remarkable ability to remain calm in stressful situations." Uh, is it just me, or is this sentence a bit weird? o.O
    • As I said in IRC, I can't see anything odd about this sentence...
      • My bad; misread it. 1358 (Talk) 21:43, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
  • Could you give some context on their homeworld upon the first mention in the S&C?
    • How about that? --Eyrezer 01:56, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  • "The Revwiens evolved on Revyia,[1] a world located on the northern fringes of the Outer Rim Territories,[11] which was considered the halfway point from the Pits of Plooma to the Galactic Rim." This sounds like the Outer Rim was considered… can you reword for clarity?
    • Tweaked.
  • "Sometime prior to 2 BBY,[17] a Revwien trader lived in the town of Mos Nytram on Tatooine. It auctioned a Zephyr-G swoop to local…" Can you replace "it" with "the trader" or something like that? I was kinda confused upon first reading it.
    • Done.
  • Bts: "…and later in the Star Wars Technical Journal (Volume One) (1993) and…" Can you pipelink the technical journal somehow? It looks rather ugly atm. :P
    • Modified.
  • Particular reason for the strange subsection formatting in the Bts and the appearances? 1358 (Talk) 23:32, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
    • Personal preference. I see no reason to have disproportionately large subsection titles in the TOC as here. --Eyrezer 23:54, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
      • Our articles should still use proper formatting, and that includes the headings. There is no point in having a TOC at all if the headers aren't done properly. 1358 (Talk) 21:43, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
        • Ey asked me to step in since he's away from internet for a bit longer. I've formatted the headers according to your suggestion, Xd. ~ SavageBob 17:56, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
          • Would it be any idea to just omit the section and tag it with {{Nc}}? 1358 (Talk) 19:16, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
            • That would be my preference, but I've been told in other noms not to use that template. Is there any policy on this? The LG doesn't seem to say. ~ SavageBob 19:44, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
              • Eh, I can't seem to find a reason why to have that template if it isn't meant to be used. I would've gone ahead and changed this, but since I don't know where it should go in the app list, I'll let you handle it. :P Besides, linking to a specific section is more complicated if there are two sections with same titles. So basically, do what I say. :P 1358 (Talk) 19:49, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
                • Yes, Sir! Do you think this should apply to the non-canon source, too? I wasn't sure from your objection. ~ SavageBob 02:13, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
                  • Yeah, looks good. Thanks for taking care of it :) 1358 (Talk) 14:47, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
Jujiggum
  • In the infobox you just link blue to color and leave the rest unlinked, but in the intro and body you link all of the colors to their separate pages. It's up to you which method to use, but please be consistent.
  • "From this time onward, Revwien could be found…" Tense/mood shift.
  • Order 66 could use a little context in the "Tyia Phylosophy" section; just something like what you have in the intro would be fine.
  • "Sometime prior to 2 BBY, a Revwien trader lived in the town of Mos Nytram on Tatooine." I assumed it was a typo and changed it to 22 BBY, seeing as we know Anakin took the speeder in 22 BBY, but I just wanted to double-check with you.
  • "This occurred in 1991…" Do you mean that they were first named there? If so, please make that a bit clearer.
  • "…an ancient species predating the Galactic Republic that was renowned for its unique and powerful technology." Grammatically, you say here that the Republic was renowned for its technology.
  • That's all. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 19:02, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
    • I've made a go at addressing this for Eyrezer, Jon. I'm pretty sure he was trying to state that they were first named in 1991, so I tried to clarify that. If not, I'm sure he'll change it back once he gets back to a net-connected computer. :) ~ SavageBob 02:40, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Dining at Dex's is currently listed twice in the article. I'm to understand it's to be considered an Appearance, not a Source.
  • The quote in the non-canon history BTS subsection needs some formatting adjustment. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:44, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
  • Images should alternate left-to-right when at all possible. There's no reason why the images in the article can't alternate, and doing so would even make them fit better in the text. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:47, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
    • Hey, Tope. Unless Eyre comes back in the next day or so, I'll address these. Can you elaborate on the formatting of the quote, though? It's a poem, so I think it's supposed to appear like verse. It could be done like this, though: "Where have you gone? / Why haven't you called?" if that would be better. ~ SavageBob 01:15, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
      • Hmm, I gotcha. Do you know if the book presents it exactly as it is currently in the article? Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:52, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
        • The poem in the book is much longer, but those are the first two lines, so yeah. The only major differences are that in the book there are no quote marks (of course), and the second line is indented a bit (the whole poem flows visually on the page like a vertical wave of text). I've added an extra quotation mark, as this is how I've always been taught to punctuate separate paragraphs of dialogue from the same speaker. What do you think? Should I figure out some way to indicate the indentation of the original? ~ SavageBob 16:00, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
        • All your objection are belong to addressed. Let me know what you think about the verse/quote. And thanks for the review, gentleman. ~ SavageBob 16:02, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
          • Thanks for resolving these in my absence, SavageBob. Toprawa, let me know if any of these concerns are still unresolved. --Eyrezer 09:55, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
          • I understand your reasoning for the extra quote mark in the second line, but I think that's really just for in-line text quotes. I think it would be ok to just leave that out, and I would be satisfied with it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:58, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
          • For the sake of expediency, I've gone ahead and just removed the extra quote mark, rather than potentially holding up the nomination on this point. If need be, we can continue to discuss this. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:37, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
  • Is there any specific reason why the article references Classic Star Wars: The Early Adventures 7 and not the individual story it collects? CSW: Early Adventures is just the TPB title; the actual story within is Bring Me the Children. This is similar to how we reference the original Manning-Williamson Classic Star Wars newspaper serials by story, not TPB: i.e., Darth Vader Strikes, not Classic Star Wars Volume 1: In Deadly Pursuit. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:04, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
    • Yes, the reason is that the Revwien does not appear in the original "Bring Me the Children." It only appears in the TPB. This should be explained in the BTS. --Eyrezer 06:33, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
      • Very good. Missed putting that reasoning together when reading through. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:37, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
  • I would request the article please utilize the citeweb template for reference 28. If need be, I can assist with that. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:13, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
    • Sure. I've given it a shot, but I'm not sure where exactly JCF should go. If you have a better slot for it, please correct it. --Eyrezer 06:33, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
  • Can we elaborate on this at all a bit? What kind of problem arose, for example: "problems often arose with automated pruning droids, such as the 5T Tree Feeder" Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:17, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
    • This sentence is drawn from a lead quote in EGtD, quoted as the head of this section. Given the statement's presence in an advertisement, and colloquial style, I have kept the statement open. It is possible the Feeders "attacked" Revwiens, but hard to say. --Eyrezer 06:33, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
  • Also, if we're choosing to use the WEG citation template for Sources list items, might we keep it uniform by also using the template in the corresponding reference notes? Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:51, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
    • Sure. --Eyrezer 06:33, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 21:37, February 18, 2011 (UTC)