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Ranat

  • Nominated by: ~ SavageBob 02:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Do you hear that? That gnawing sound? It's growing louder. It's the sound of thousands of meter-tall rodents with fangs the size of your forearm burrowing through the fundament of your home. It sounds like it's coming from the next room. How thick is that door? Or the wall? Has anyone heard from the dog lately? Oh, are the lights flickering? (Ya gotta love the galaxy far far away's very own zombies!) ~ SavageBob 02:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

(5 Inqs/1 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Enough is enough! I have had it with these kriffin' Ranats on this kriffin' ship! (Mace Windu) --Skippy Farlstendoiro 06:19, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote --Eyrezer 22:06, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 05:22, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Everybody strap in! Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:47, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote CC7567 (talk) 08:16, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 21:56, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Object

  1. Eyrezer:
    • Can you mention Con Q in the intro?
    • In the Biol section, you introduce the fact they have a tail with the phrase "the tail". Can you tweak this?
    • You mention getting approval of the sector government. From the Atlas Online companion, we can now specify this as the Antemeridian sector. This could either be pipelinked or mentioned in the text.
    • The last paragraph of the Ranats in the galaxy section jumps around chronologically. Is it possible to change the order of the Ranats mentioned to match the chronology?
    • Are there images on the Wook of the other possible Ranats you mention in the BTS? If so, it would be nice to add links to those images for reference purposes.
    • These aside, an enjoyable read. Nice work, as usual. --Eyrezer 03:44, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
      • Thanks for your comments as always; these should all be addressed. As for the images, every Ranat image I know of is in the article, so I'm afraid we can't do any better here. ~ SavageBob 15:55, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
        • With the image question, I was suggesting you add a link to the disputed images in question. Currently there is a link to the bosun, but something like "For example, a hooded and cloaked rat-like figure is seen in a cantina on Diado in "It Takes a Thief," a story set in 19 BBY (Seen [[:File:Diado rodent|here]])." This way readers could click the link to check for themselves rather than having to hunt down the original source. --Eyrezer 23:59, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
    • A new one: can you explain the significance of being in the Borderlands? Ie, that it was a contested area of space or something. --Eyrezer 23:59, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
      • OK, I've uploaded the images and linked them in the article; plus, I've clarified the Borderlands a bit. ~ SavageBob 00:08, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
  2. Skippy. Not my best day, but let's have a try.
    • Bio: "They share many features in common with their distant cousins and with other mammals of similar physiology. Nevertheless, the status of Ranats as fully sentients...". The first sentence lists sentient species, but makes not mention to the sentience, so I do not understand the "Nevertheless".
    • Language: "Nitram Con Queecon" is listed as a three-part name. Should you mention that "Con Queecon" is the name of the species? I don't want OS ("could mean Nitram the Ranat"), but I think it's a good moment to repeat that bit of information.
    • Language: If Nevar Yalnal has an article, you should link him here in his first mention. Or at least somewhere, if you don't want to link him here.
    • Amusement park boom: It's the first time under history you mention that Ranat could be deemed sentient or semi-sentient or anything. So, during their previous appearances (Revan, Rydarians), Ranats were not classified? Or is Trebors trying to re-classify the Ranats?
    • In the galaxy: "In 0 BBY, they were building themselves a moisture vaporator and other items to ease their life on the desert world". I thought "they created no goods of their own". Which one is it? Reegeesk's acts, btw, seem to contradict "they had a difficult time mastering complex devices or fields that required abstract reasoning"
    • In the galaxy: Context for Una Poot and for Tinian I'att.
    • Two very similar sentences in different parts of the text: "work for little compensation" and "work for very little compensation". Apparently a trait, so it should be mentioned under "Culture".
    • BtS: "Sadie Eddon" redirects to "Sadie Eden", an article where "Eddon" is not mentioned ("Sadie Eden, sometimes credited as Eddon..."). Is this the person who played the Ranat?
    • BtS: "is designed to emulate a horror film". Can you source this? I mean, does the source offer a text saying "We wrote this wanting to emulate a horror film". Same applies to to "is designed to test the player characters' morality"
    • BtS: "The article "Action Figure Archive," in Star Wars Insider 75, mislabels the Chadra-Fan character Kabe as a Ranat" This could use a mention to Kabe's quote: In-universe, Kabe had been confused with a Ranat.
    • One more: BtS: the Yuuzhan Vong Peace Brigade takes them instead. I seem to understand that the Peace Brigade is not a Yuuzhan Vong organization, even if they are alligned with the YV. Suggestion: The YV-alligned PB, or The PG (allied with the YV).
    • aaaaand the most important objection: Take a copy of this thing and read pages 32 and 56. Even better, scan the whole book; I could have missed a mention.
    • Sorry if I'm being rude, but as I said, I'm not at my usual top billing. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 14:15, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
      • OK, sorry for taking so long to respond to these comments; I was moving to new digs. I should have addressed everything on your list except:
        • I feel that the first link to Nevar Yalnal should be when he is mentioned as an individual, not just an example name, hence the current linking.
        • The "It Takes a Thief" story contradicts most other Ranat lore, so I'm not sure what to do about the fact that Reegesk and his tribe seem at least somewhat comfortable with technology. I suppose a note could be stated that this particular tribe had attained a level of technological prowess unusual for the species as a whole. Would that be helpful?
        • The Sadie Eddon/Eden thing is hard to take care of. If we make a distinction between reliable sources and unreliable sources, as Wikipedia's policies on such matters, we are left with the name Sadie Eddon, as this is the only one that comes from a reliable source and links an actress with Reegesk. However, if we allow for unreliable, fan-edited sources such as IMDB and anonymous forums, we find that Sadie Eddon is another name used by the actress/stunt lady otherwise known as Sadie Eden. I'd rather err on the side of reliability, but I'm not sure what the Wook's opinion is of IMDB as a source.
          • I've used IMDB as a source and asked about it. I'll take care of Eddon. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 13:43, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
        • The horror film and morality stuff is sourced. Those bits come from the next footnote that you find after them. Thanks for the review, and apologies again for my lateness addressing these issues! ~ SavageBob 04:38, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
  3. Attack of the Clone
    • "Nevertheless, they readily adopted technology from without, especially shiny knickknacks to hang from their clothing or stash with their personal belongings." Please check this; it's reading very choppy.
    • "Ranats had nothing in the way of the art, diplomacy, poetry, philosophy, and technology practiced by other species": this reads very awkwardly; please somehow rephrase this more clearly and less colloquially.
    • Please check all of your pronouns throughout the first paragraph of "Social structure and habitat"; I'm not completely sure what all of the "they"s are referring to.
    • Will continue with "History" once these have been fixed. CC7567 (talk) 03:30, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
      • Excellent review so far. I've made an effort to address your preliminary objections. ~ SavageBob 03:58, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
    • "Unbeknownst to the Ranats, the endeavor was headed by an entrepreneur named Hayzo Trebors, who had obtained the permission of Targan, the governor of Rydar II, and the government of Antemeridian sector." Permission specifically for what?
    • Please somehow standardize your paragraph size throughout the article; aesthetically, it doesn't look very organized right now with little bits here and much larger paragraphs elsewhere.
    • "and then impressed as mercenaries": please clarify this; I'm not quite sure you have the right word choice here.
    • "The galactic government simply paid other Ranats to do their bidding; the beings were willing to work for very little compensation." Which one? You haven't mentioned the Empire in a while here, so it's unclear.
    • Please fix "The Refugee Trail" redlink, as per Rule 8, there can be no redlinks in templates.
    • The last piece of advice I have to give you is regarding linking. Please watch your linking as much as possible; the best I can say of this article is that it was very lacking and sporadic in linking. While I caught what I found, I'm not even sure if I fixed everything properly, so I'd recommend that you look into this yourself in the near future. CC7567 (talk) 07:13, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
      • I've clarified the points you mentioned and tried to break up a few longer paragraphs. I'm not really sure how the paragraphs could be any more standardized or why that would necessarily be a good thing, so I hope this is acceptable. "The Refugee Trail" is no longer a red link, so that leaves the linking. I'm always amazed by how many articles we have that had no idea about, so I'm not sure at all what else could be linked! Thanks for the review; it was very helpful. ~ SavageBob 08:09, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 21:56, January 12, 2010 (UTC)