- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Oppo Rancisis
- Nominated by: -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 00:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: WP:NEGTC nom.
(5 Inqs/0 Users/5 Total)
Support
Atarumaster88 (Talk page) 19:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Jaina Solo(Talk) 22:48, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:24, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Thefourdotelipsis 22:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Oppose
I think you need to address the number of arms thing in the BTS.Yrfeloran 15:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)- What exactly are you looking for? All that I can really say is, "he wasn't shown to have four arms in the films or most sources until Republic." -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- From the desk of Atarumaster88
"Rancisis was one of those who informed Skywalker's Master, Obi-Wan Kenobi." Informed of what?- Added.
"Recognizing the negotiations as a debacle, Rancisis was reassigned by the Council." Who did the recognition?- Addressed.
"Being one of the most astute tacticians in the Jedi Order" POV.- Added an "as he was considered."
Inconsistency beween Rancisis' and Rancisis's.- Got them all, I think.
"Rancisis selected Quinlan Vos to be his second in command, as the Kiffar Jedi had had prior dealings with both the Anzati and Morgukai and was knowledgeable about both groups, and because he was Tholme's former Padawan." Bit of a run-on- Split.
Consistency of Caldera vs. caldera- Addressed.
Was Auset with Jeisel and Vos when they found the tunnels? It's a bit unclear.- Removed the bit about Auset.
"With one last throw of the chance cube, Rancisis used his tail to send Kelkko sprawling across the room; the Anzati perished in a fiery shower of Force lightning." Flowery prose.- Changed it a bit; better?
- I would remove the chance cube bit, unless he was literally throwing a chance cube.
- Bah! You're killing me here.
- I would remove the chance cube bit, unless he was literally throwing a chance cube.
- Changed it a bit; better?
"He had the Republic's interests at heart, and the majority of his decisions while serving on the Council were in the interest of the Republic, and he cared about the Republic's integrity." Run-on/redundant.- Removed the last bit.
"Oppo Rancisis was talented in a number of unconventional Force powers," unconventional is POV.- I'm not seeing the problem...
Four redlinks.- Now three with the removal of the non-existent Wookieequote page.
- Figures you throw in a TOTJ mention. Bah! :-P Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Will do. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there a Wikiquote page coming? --Eyrezer 03:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)- Bah, I completely forgot about it. I'll make one in a few days, when I have access to my comics. :-) For now, I've removed the template. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hey:
"perished in a mass of Force lightning." Did Oppo use Force lightning? I'm just asking for an explanation here.- It's sort of ambiguous in the comic—Oppo flicks him into the air with his tail, and the Anzat is enveloped in Force lightning. It's probably Bulq's, but since it's not shown in the comic I think it's best to leave it ambiguous.
When you mention the shadowy force orchestrating the Yinchorri Uprising, tell the reader what it is. Either that or explain later in Legacy, when you detail Order 66 and Palpatine.- Added to Legacy section; let me know if you want more.
I'm afraid I'm a fun killer; I don't the chance cube wording is good. Could you remove that bit?- Great work. Chack Jadson (Talk) 00:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I had removed it, but Grae re-added it. I don't see the problem with it, so perhaps others could chime in? Thanks for the review, -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 18:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'll try to talk to Graestan about it. Any feedback here from others would be nice too. I feel it should be removed because it's kind of random, and uneeded. It's not a big deal though, but I'm leaving my objection for now. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:35, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I had removed it, but Grae re-added it. I don't see the problem with it, so perhaps others could chime in? Thanks for the review, -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 18:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Jaina Solo:
"Eventually, after using the Force to learn that Vos was innocent, Jiesel accepted his innocence, though they were still in a predicament—Rancisis had not revealed his plans to anyone, and without his intricate strategies, the Republic's war effort on Saleucami would fail, they believed."–Reads awkwardly.- Reworded -- better?
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Vos's plan involved a three-pronged attack against the Separatist…"–"s's vs. s'"--Jaina Solo(Talk) 23:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)- Changed. Thanks for the review. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 19:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Jaina Solo(Talk) 22:48, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Changed. Thanks for the review. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 19:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Toprawa:
Can we specify someone or something here, instead of "it was learned"? "It was later learned that the Yinchorri"- Changed a bit.
Please give context for what this Council is: "Rancisis was also a member of the Council of Reconciliation"- Contextified.
Can we reword this to avoid the passive voice to say who appeased them? The Republic, the Jedi? ", the Senex sector was appeased"- Changed.
If I remember correctly, there is a nice quote from the Clone Wars cartoon during the discussion of whether to knight Anakin Skywalker, in which he says something about "hallowed traditions." I certainly feel this would be a better quote to head up the "Early war" subsection than the quote you have thereYou're unnecessarily reiterating information that's already been presented here, and it gets kind of confusing. At the beginning of this paragraph, you say Rancisis selected Vos as his second-in-command, but later you say here he offers Vos this position. By reading this, Vos has already been chosen, so why is Rancisis now offering this? Clarify, please: "and offered Vos a position as his right-hand-man"- I reworded a bit for clarity. Let me know if it's still confusing you.
Can we specify the name of this city at all? "Saleucami's main city"- No can do, sorry.
Please pipelink the Star Destroyer class into here, if we can: "commanding the Star Destroyers in orbit"- Done.
I'm gathering from this that this is meant to imply that Tholme may be the man they need on the inside. If so, please clarify/reiterate this at this point: "informed Rancisis that their Force bond with him had not indicated that he was dead"- Clarified some; let me know if it's to your satisfaction.
I'm confused, so his tail can project Force lightning? "Rancisis used his tail to send Kelkko sprawling across the room; the Anzati perished in a mass of Force lightning"Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)- Per my response to Chack above, we don't know where the Force lightning came from, so I can't say either way. Thanks for the review. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Bah. Stupid Clone Wars. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Per my response to Chack above, we don't know where the Force lightning came from, so I can't say either way. Thanks for the review. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
"The strategy was successful, and Stark was killed; Plo Koon was given a seat on the Council for his part in ending the conflict, while Rancisis' term was made permanent for his." - Stark? Killed? I don't think so. :P Thefourdotelipsis 09:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)- Whoops. Fixed. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 21:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 22:33, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Per the pronunciation in Clone Wars Chapter 21 ("Ran-sis-iss"), I've gone with " Rancisis' " according to the new policy. Even though "Ran-kiss-iss" seems like a more natural pronunciation. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 00:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)