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Nink
- Nominated by: IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 03:30, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Surprised I got this guy over 1,000 words. Doesn't say a word, but still one of my favorite characters.
(5 Inqs/3 Users/8 Total)
Support
- Winterz (talk) 05:48, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
- ~Savage
03:51, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Ninqvote Menkooroo (talk) 03:29, February 8, 2013 (UTC)- The comma in "species, who lived" in the intro kinda bothers me, but nothing else. Cade Calrayn
18:04, February 14, 2013 (UTC)
Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:23, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
Sir Cavalier of One(Squadron channel) 10:02, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
—Cal Jedi(Personal Comm Channel) 04:16, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
CC7567 (talk) 17:36, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
Object
Whoa-oa-oa, whoa-oa-oa... Wrestlemania, fighting to survive
Looks like you could get a skin colour from the ERC picture.- One problem: I can't figure out what goddamn color that's supposed to be. It's some weird mix. When I first wrote this article I swear I stared at that picture for the longest time trying to figure it out, unsuccessfully.
Looks like a dull purple mottled with pink to me. If you want to mention the tan beak color, you could add that too. ~Savage
12:43, January 9, 2013 (UTC)- I put my take on what it is in there. I put "Mottled gray mixed with purple and tan" and just "multicolored" in the bio. Is that cool with everyone? IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:42, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
- One problem: I can't figure out what goddamn color that's supposed to be. It's some weird mix. When I first wrote this article I swear I stared at that picture for the longest time trying to figure it out, unsuccessfully.
Online Companion ref should use the sw.com template!- Fixed.
"Nink evaded pursuit from Neshtovar fliers before finding a seaside mountain roost not far from the source of the explosion. The next morning, Vaal rode Nink up..." Is there anything you can say about what happens overnight? In the book, Adari sleeps and Nink eats. The jump in time is currently a little jarring.- Done.
Even though he's non-sentient, could the article support a P&T? Skyborn makes reference to him being surprised, angry, panicked, afraid, having had enough of the day's surprises, etc.- I was just following the precedent of Ceasar, which was the only nonsentient animal status article I could think of. That one went without a P&T. I thought that with only an animal intelligence, he can't really have a personality per se.
- If not, could you indicate those personality traits in the bio somewhere? Menkooroo (talk) 14:03, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, alright. How does it look now? IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 02:58, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
- If not, could you indicate those personality traits in the bio somewhere? Menkooroo (talk) 14:03, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
- I was just following the precedent of Ceasar, which was the only nonsentient animal status article I could think of. That one went without a P&T. I thought that with only an animal intelligence, he can't really have a personality per se.
Adari screams "Nink!" at one point while riding him. Just one word, but it could be a quote somewhere in the bio.- Added.
Looking at the passage in Skyborn, it looks like Adari is the one who thinks Wise animal, not the Sith.- I'm not so sure. The phrase "wise animal" is italicized, in the same manner as the Sith's telepathic messages to Adari immediately beforehand.
- Sorry it took me a while to get back to you on this; my copy of Skyborn is on an external hard drive, and I kept forgetting to access it. Now that I've looked at it again: It does look ambiguous, but I want to make one more case for Adari --- the Sith's telepathic messages to her are in a previous section, before a paragraph break, and this section is a new one with no telepathic messages; the passage is "She looked back at Nink, yawning in the woods and unwilling to follow her farther. Wise animal." It reads to me as if the Sith's telepathic messages are a thing of the past, and this is just her thinking about Nink in the general italicized-thoughts method. Thoughts? Menkooroo (talk) 14:03, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, OK. Changed. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 02:58, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry it took me a while to get back to you on this; my copy of Skyborn is on an external hard drive, and I kept forgetting to access it. Now that I've looked at it again: It does look ambiguous, but I want to make one more case for Adari --- the Sith's telepathic messages to her are in a previous section, before a paragraph break, and this section is a new one with no telepathic messages; the passage is "She looked back at Nink, yawning in the woods and unwilling to follow her farther. Wise animal." It reads to me as if the Sith's telepathic messages are a thing of the past, and this is just her thinking about Nink in the general italicized-thoughts method. Thoughts? Menkooroo (talk) 14:03, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure. The phrase "wise animal" is italicized, in the same manner as the Sith's telepathic messages to Adari immediately beforehand.
In the bio's final paragraph, can you establish earlier that Adari and Nink aren't the only ones who make it to the rendezvous? It currently reads as if they are until the mention of "Like a group of other uvak and Keshiri," which itself isn't entirely clear that the other group is composed of other resistance members.Menkooroo (talk) 04:24, January 6, 2013 (UTC)- Done. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:40, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
Savaged…
Can you say who found Vaal's teachings heretical when you mention that fact in the intro?- Mentioned.
"oldest uvak in memory" (intro and body) -- maybe specify in Keshiri memory, since we've just been introduced to the Sith at this point in the intro.- Specified.
"hopefully for their deaths" -- this is confusing. Were these uvaks riderless, or were the riders supposed to die too?- Is this better?
Mention his skin coloration in the infobox and P&T? You can source it to the Readers Companion illustration.- Trying to get that sorted out above. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:40, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
Semantic, I know, but I don't think we can say uvaks are born or had a "birth" per se. Purgatory mentions "uvak hatchlings," so I think it's safe to assume they are laid in eggs and then later hatch.- Changed.
Can you link the specific sea they flew over?- Done.
"coming across the remains of a crashed starship and a man throwing something over the side of a precipice..." I like how you're treating this from Vaal's POV, but if she doesn't know who the man is, or what the jettisoned object is, she shouldn't know what a starship is either, I think. Maybe call it a burning wreck or some other replacement to indicate how she perceived it? On the other hand, in the following paragraph you take an omniscient POV and just reveal who all these folks were; you could go back to the previous paragraph and just identify Korsin and the dude he's throwing off the mountain flat out rather than trying to limit the narrative to Vaal's perspective. Either approach would work.- Did the first one.
"the Sith took control of the planet", "expanded their dominion over Kesh", and "virtually all the uvak on Kesh" -- "Pandemonium" shows that much of Kesh remained outside their control, so maybe change this to talk of continents and Keshtah alone.- Well, at that point none of them know anything about different continents. I changed it around to better reflect that they didn't control all of Kesh, how does it look now?
Identify the ocean the island is in?- Same one I just previously linked.
Indicate in BTS who painted the image of him for the Reader's Companion? ~Savage
13:19, January 8, 2013 (UTC)- Done.
Attack of the Clone
Rather minor, but two "although"s are used in succession to start sentences at the end of the bio. Please vary one.CC7567 (talk) 03:00, March 3, 2013 (UTC)- Varied. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 02:17, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 17:36, March 6, 2013 (UTC)