Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Naga Sadow/Legends (second nomination)

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Contents

  • 1 Naga Sadow
    • 1.1 (0 Inqs/1 Users/1 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 Ecks Dee
        • 1.1.2.2 Exiled Jedi
      • 1.1.3 Comments
    • 1.2 Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

Naga Sadow

  • Nominated by: IFYLOFD (Talk) 03:29, May 31, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Finally done after way too friggin' long.

(0 Inqs/1 Users/1 Total)

(Votes required: 3 Inqvotes required to reach minimum. Additional 3 user or 2 Inq votes required to pass.)

Support

  1. Brandon Rhea(talk) 02:23, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

Object

  1. Categories were removed when you added your rewrite. I re-added what was there beforehand but—since I don't know the subject matter—can you check to make sure those are still correct and up to date, now that the article has been revamped? - Brandon Rhea(talk) 14:28, May 31, 2016 (UTC)
    • It's good. IFYLOFD (Talk) 22:55, May 31, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Both the ref named "dlots5" and the ref named "dlots3" reference Tales of the Jedi – Dark Lords of the Sith 5. I could make an assumption as to what's what here, but I'd rather not, and I can't even begin to run any cleanup tools on this article without this ref being fixed. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 12:01, June 4, 2017 (UTC)
    • Fixed. IFYLOFD (Talk) 03:21, June 6, 2017 (UTC)
    • After your first major edit of this article and ever since, there has been an unclosed ref in the BTS section. I restored the original references with this edit, but feel free to adjust/undo that if necessary. Just a note while I continue reviewing this thing. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:55, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • Reference 39 should use {{WebCite}} and include a backup link etc. Reference 47 lacks text altogether.
    • 39 is a dead link and I can't find a backup link that actually has the info so that's removed. 47 is fixed.
      • That one also needs an archive link as per WP:S and you can probably remove the empty parameters as well. 1358 (Talk) 19:02, October 2, 2017 (UTC)
        • Should be fixed.
  • At least some of the Databank entries listed in the Sources have broken backup links. You'll need to use IA and find the latest working version and add it to the templates.
    • Should be fixed.
  • I'm not sure what the deal is with Holonet icon allegiances Khem Val on The Old Republic Holonet (original site is defunct) in the Sources, but the original link seems to work just fine.
    • Fixed. IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:26, October 2, 2017 (UTC)
  • You should use {{CSWECite}} in the Sources and include the entry name (but not the page number), as per the MOS. 1358 (Talk) 22:04, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
    • Disregard this, it turns out Sadow has his own entry in the CSWE. 1358 (Talk) 22:11, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • Just from Sadow's entry, I do not believe that the c. 4400 BBY death date can be sourced solely to The New Essential Guide to Characters. I think that this reference will need additional explanation for how the date was obtained.
  • While The New Essential Guide to Characters says that his eyes are green, most of the images in the article appear to show him with brown or yellow eyes. Are there any images that show him with green eyes? Could you note this discrepancy in the BTS?
  • Similarly his skin color / appearance seems to vary between different depictions (especially the infobox and NEGC images). Could you note these discrepancies in the BTS text?
  • Out of curiosity, how is the 5000 BBY date referred to in the comic book? Is it completely self-sourcing or is it more of a calculated date that might need additional referencing?
  • In the biography it states that his spirit is still present in 3638 BBY, with the BTS stating that the CSWE says that Nadd destroyed his spirit. Could you note the discrepancy between The Old Republic and its related sources and the CSWE in the BTS?
  • It seems to me that the P&T section should mention that verbally respected his master Simus, but still just killed him when it suited his purposes.
  • Could you describe his armor somewhat in the equipment section. It seems fairly elaborate.
  • It seems to me that the article should have an image of his spirit from The Old Republic in the legacy section. I think there should be enough room for it.
  • I see that Nexus of Power and the Star Wars: Force and Destiny Core Rulebook were added to the sources list after the nomination started. I just want to make sure that these sources were checked for any new information.
  • In Knights of the Old Republic, there is a poison blade in his tomb. The miniature of Sadow also has him with the poison blade. I'm not sure if this is same as the Sith sword, but it should be mentioned / linked somehow.
  • I will continue my review after you finish these.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 04:03, October 12, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

  • I already tried to address this on the article's talk page, but to no avail. Although I realize that the current infobox picture is the most detailed and awesome headshot of Sadow we can get, it is also inaccurate. On that pic, his skin is pale yellow, when Sadow was clearly described as red-skinned in multiple sources from the original Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi — The Golden Age of the Sith to the more recent Lost Tribe of the Sith series. When I GANd Hakagram Graush, I was asked to move the picture of Ajunta Pall beheading him because it contradicted a single textual evidence. This headshot, however, contradicts many sources. I don't want to add this as an objection (because I think it's high time Sadow becomes an FA, and the article rocks), but still wanted to point it out. --LelalMekha (talk) 08:10, May 31, 2016 (UTC)
    • Good point. I'm going to leave it up for now simply for lack of options, but if I can find a suitable one I'll swap it out. The problem, as you know, is that there aren't any really good headshots of him - even the New Essential Guide to Characters basically depicts him as looking human. IFYLOFD (Talk) 00:21, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

  1. Inqvote Outstanding objections more than two weeks old. Imperators II(Talk) 13:06, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote 1358 (Talk) 13:12, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Exiled Jedi (talk) 22:10, October 26, 2017 (UTC)