Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Mak Plain/Legends

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Mak Plain

  • Nominated by: Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 18:51, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Well, this is embarrassing. Didn't realize it was over 1,000 until it was pretty much a passed GA... sooo here you go. Hot off the presses.

(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. Inqvote Wouldn't mind another image if possible, maybe somewhere toward the P&T or Bts. CC7567 (talk) 22:27, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Muuns FTW!!! Plagueis327 (talk) 00:47, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Coneheads! ~SavageBOB sig 20:12, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Just note that eye color should also be added in the personality and traits too. Hanzo Hasashi 01:19, September 7, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote One was real pretty. The other... sorta plain. Menkooroo (talk) 23:05, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 18:11, September 30, 2012 (UTC)
  7. —Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 07:41, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Savaged…
  • I wonder if the first sentence of bio should include his occupation in addition to gender and species. E.g., "...was a male Muun banker" or whatever. This is how we do 99% of character articles, anyway, so it just stood out to me that this one didn't.
  • Maybe an article for the female Zygerrian he was talking to? ~SavageBOB sig 12:59, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
Muuney tunes
  • A question since I haven't seen the episode in a while: Can "Plain was typical of many Muuns" and "This political apathy was widespread in the Banking Clan management" be sourced to Pursuit of Peace?
    • I changed the "typical" source to TEGAS. As for the Banking Clan bit, I was trying to source it to Pursuit of Peace, Senate Spy, and Heroes on Both Sides, but I placed the SS and HOBS citations after the specific instances in those episodes. Would it be best if I move all of those citations to the end of the sentence?
      • Ah, I see what you did. Yeah, it's good.
  • A little nitpicky, but is "fair" the most accurate descriptors for Muuns' skin color? Their article says pale white, and "fair" always makes me think of something like this.
    • For this Muun, yes. TCW pretty much just makes their Muuns as tall, skinny, misshaped humans. It's hard to see in the main image, but his skin is pretty much the same color as Nix Card's, which I would call fair. They don't really match up with San Hill's palor. (And for the record, I'm really not into this new trend of giving Muuns noses.)
  • Lemme know if the change I made to the bio is correct! Good work. Menkooroo (talk) 12:25, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
New objection
  • Just noting here that I'll check on the Pursuit of Peace question at some point tomorrow. Menkooroo (talk) 15:22, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
    • Wait what is the "Pursuit of Peace" question? You mean "Slaves of the Republic"? Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 18:03, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
      • Right, that one. I have some screenshots --- of course, there's no such thing as shotobucket, but if you change "shoto" to "photo" in the URL you'll be in the clear. After the first time we see the Mak-Muun talking to the slavers, Ahsoka stops the one guy from whipping the Twi'lek slave, and Anakin convinces him to let him go see the queen. As Anakin is being led away, we can see that first Mak-Muun here: http://i956.shotobucket.com/albums/ae49/gradualferguson/random/mak1.jpg . The screen then pans to the right, and we can see another Mak-Muun: http://i956.shotobucket.com/albums/ae49/gradualferguson/random/mak2.jpg . Here's one more screenshot, showing both of them on-screen at the same time: http://i956.shotobucket.com/albums/ae49/gradualferguson/random/twomuuns.jpg . Since there are two Muuns with Mak's character model in the same shot, I think it would be speculation to chalk it up to anything more than a re-used character model. Sorry :'( Menkooroo (talk) 08:52, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
        • As I mentioned, I'm aware that this might seriously jeopardize the article's chances at becoming featured, as removing all "Slaves of the Republic" stuff from the intro and body, and putting the longest text at least I could think of into the behind the scenes only makes it 988 words. Then again, maybe you will be able to make it longer than I have, and/or just add more words to what's already there, and the article would still be alright. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 12:18, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
          • BTS should probably still mention the re-used character model. That's worth twelve words easily. :D Menkooroo (talk) 15:51, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
            • No, those 988 words include the longest-winded bts stuff I could think of regarding character models in "Slaves," though all I chose to say was the fact there were a couple of Muuns with that appearance, and didn't give specific details on when they were seen and what they did, etc. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 19:18, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
              • Hanzo, please hold off until Trayus addresses the objection. No use speculating about a problem until there's a real problem. CC7567 (talk) 19:20, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
                • Alright, I was just commenting, and was only previewing some text of that nature, not planning to actually edit the article in any way. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 19:21, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

  • Another FAN for TCWProject: Politics! Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 18:51, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
  • Just realized—might be worth adding banker into the body somewhere. CC7567 (talk) 02:23, September 6, 2012 (UTC)
  • Any thoughts on Dan Grievous's message? Sounds like it's possibly unconfirmed that's him in Slaves of the Republic, though I'm not too familiar with TCW to have any say myself. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:22, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • Upon previewing the article without Slaves of the Republic info on wordcounttool.com, and writing a hypothetical BTS sentence if we can't prove Plain was in Slaves of the Republic, it appears that this article might be too short for an FA if we can't confirm he was also in that episode. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:37, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • I'm wondering about this too. Do we have any indication that it's actually him? Menkooroo (talk) 04:33, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
      • My thought is that an identical model usually means the same character. If we see a Satine Kryze or Riyo Chuchi model in the background of the Senate, we don't really doubt that it is indeed them. Why is Mr. Mak Plain any different? Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 04:47, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
        • Not too familiar with the character, and haven't watched those episodes, but Dan Grievous also brought up the fact that apparently there were three Muuns of that appearance seen at the same time at one point in the episode. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:31, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
  • I overlooked this, but I don't think we can prove his homeworld was Coruscant just because he was working for the Confederacy there in Pursuit of Peace. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 21:30, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • He wasn't personally working with the Confederacy; he just stated that the IBC and the Separatists had reached a deal. Padmé does state that he lives on Coruscant. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 04:24, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
      • Oh ok, if he was mentioned as living there. I just cross referenced the other wikis, and seeing them not mention Coruscant, I just thought it was automatically assumed because TCW showed him working in that planet. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:01, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
  • Trayus—you can still put the image in the Bts as an image of one of the "many" Plains in the episode, if you find it fitting. CC7567 (talk) 20:31, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 12:43, October 3, 2012 (UTC)