Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Lo-Taren

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Lo-Taren

  • Nominated by: Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:02, January 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:I've actually been working on this while on a vacation.

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Support

  1. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 19:55, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Pyke syndicate AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:01, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Jim The Lamproid (talk) 06:29, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
  4. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 02:50, October 19, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:11, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

Object

AV
  • Could we get air dates for the episodes mentioned in the Bts? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:52, January 29, 2017 (UTC)
    • Yes. Do you think there should only be the US air dates? Or should I include the others? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 22:38, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
  • Are we sure that the Richard Green linked is the same one who voiced Lo-Taren? - Pyke syndicate AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:59, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
    • Huh, I never even thought to check. From what a few stringent Google searches can bring up, Green the voice actor is not the same as the guy who worked on Rebel Assault. I guess I'll make a new page. Interesting, and thanks. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 21:52, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
Cevan
  • This may not be the easiest thing to do, but a canon page for beach will need to be made. Cevan IMPpress (talk) 15:30, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
    • I created a somewhat barebones article with the sources and appearances I could think of, plus anything related to the obvious beaches, like Kachiro and Scarif. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 19:07, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
Jim The Lamproid
  • The 'Jedi Temple Archives' of the Season 3 blu-ray reveal four deleted scenes that feature Lo-Taren, all being from Padawan Lost. I've ranked them in chronological order.
    • Lo-Taren is met by the other Trandoshans seen in the episode. He explains the Jedi Padawans jumped him. The other Trandoshans say that Ahsoka must have encouraged the others to put up a fight against their captors. They agree to let the Jedi rest for a 'more satisfying hunt'
    • A Snivvian and Sakiyan are eating fruit. They get spooked and run. Shortly afterwards, Lo-Taren and Ratter arrive at the scene. Picking up their scent, They call to the other Trandoshans.
    • Ahsoka is being watched by Lo-Taren, but before he can get a shot off, she uses the force to smash him into the ground.
    • Jinx and O-mer are being chased by Lo-Taren and Ratter, using their ability to appear almost invisible, an idea scrapped in production. They are sensed through the force, and a fight ensues. Lo-Taren gets his blaster kicked away by Jinx, so the fight escalates into physical combat. Just when it looks like the Trandoshans have the upper hand, the Padawans flip above their heads, and use the force to push them off a cliff. As the padawans make their escape, Lo-Taren and Ratter, clinging to the side of the cliff, are collected by Sochek in a hover pod. Jim The Lamproid (talk) 12:39, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure how the deleted scenes are presented, but are the Sakiyan and Snivvian Vadoo and Katt Mol? I'm most certain they are, since according to the Ep Guide they were supposed to be in more scenes, including one where they pair up. Thanks, though. This is good info. I'll add it shortly.--Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:24, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
        • Yeah, the Sakiyan and Snivvian are probably the ones you mentioned. Jim The Lamproid (talk) 06:28, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
  • The image captions need full stops. Jim The Lamproid (talk) 19:21, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
    • Nevermind, I know now only full sentences need 'em Jim The Lamproid (talk) 20:05, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
      • Fwiw, the objection is quite valid on this article. :P All the captions in the article are indeed full sentences so they require full stops. Generally if there's a verb in it, it's a full sentence. 1358 (Talk) 20:12, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
        • Huh, not sure why some were and some weren't, but you were right for this one. Just fixed them. Thanks. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:24, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • Please use {{Topps}} for the Card Trader Sources entry and specify which card(s) the information is from. 1358 (Talk) 19:11, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure how it works with Card Trader. It was from one of the in-game Base Series. I don't know if those have a real world equivalency, or if the Base Series get their own articles, or what. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 12:46, September 26, 2017 (UTC)
      • Check out this forum as well. Assuming it's a card on the app, it should be possible to screenshot it and upload it to the SWCT wiki and link it from here. 1358 (Talk) 13:19, September 26, 2017 (UTC)
        • Yah it's a card on the app. I have it screenshotted, but wasn't sure if Tope was looking for cards outside that specific 2015 set? I'll ask him. Now, I did some eBay searching quick to see if a physical version of the base cards existed, and instead I found a German card game called Star Wars Attax. It seems to be like Card Trader, but with a game element to it. Features Lo-Taren, Garnac, and Lagon too name the trandoshans, and lots of other TCW characters. Did a little more looking, and it contains the new canon films too. I didn't find an article on Wookieepedia, so I'm uncertain as what to do with that card game. As to whether Canon or Legends, it's probably more null-continuity, as its just pictures, but pictures we could use. Don't know what to do with it though. Probably better for a Senate Hall discussion maybe. Noticed this page happens to have a redlink for the game, though. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 18:57, September 26, 2017 (UTC)
          • We're definitely gonna want to start recording this Attax game since it provides names. For example, it was the first (and only, outside of concept art) source to name the Rebels-exclusive droid R1-D1, who currently doesn't even have an article. - Imperial Information Office AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:53, October 19, 2017 (UTC)
  • The P&T gets extremely repetitive due to similar sentence structure and the lack of alternatives to his name. "Lo-Taren did X. Lo-Taren thought Y." Please vary. 1358 (Talk) 22:52, October 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • "The next day, Lo-Taren continued the hunt on foot but was nearly killed by the Jedi youngling Kalifa when she used the Force to strangle him out of anger while he was distracted. However, Tano allowed the hunter to live." Something I'm missing here. It was Kalifa strangling the guy, yet Tano allowed him to live? Did Tano persuade Kalifa?
    • Yah, she did. Fixed.
  • "alongside two other younglings and a Wookiee" Not really a fan of the linking used here. The Wookiee link in particular is very misleading.
    • Would you suggest not linking their names at this point or rewording it to include their names? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 23:29, November 5, 2017 (UTC)
      • To be honest I'd recommend naming Chewbacca at least. He's a major character so readers would be interested. 1358 (Talk) 14:16, November 9, 2017 (UTC)
  • "Lo-Taren and the other Trandoshans attempted to defend the fortress." I would mention the other guild members are Trandoshans earlier. I had to go back and click on the links for his comrades to check if you're referring to them or some other people.
    • Okay.
  • An astrographical location for Wasskah (Mid Rim?) would be nice in the bio.
    • Added.
  • "Detaining prisoners" is somewhat redundant phrasing, seeing as detaining basically means imprisoning. 1358 (Talk) 20:12, November 4, 2017 (UTC)
  • Showdown at Toydaria appears to be a conjectural title and should not be linked as if it was canonical in reference 1.
  • The "Counterattack" section could definitely accommodate another image.
  • The article is currently Category:Pages with missing permanent archival links. The automatic backup link in {{SW}} was recently removed, so you'll need to pass a working date to |archivedate= manually.
  • The Trandoshan-exclusivity of the guild is currently only mentioned in the intro.
  • "and locked her in a cage before destroying her comlink as she came to." Came to what?
  • "The following dawn, Garnac officially endorsed the beginning of the next hunt." This kind of sounds like the prisoners they dropped off the previous day don't belong to the hunt he's now endorsing.
  • "Lo-Taren encountered Ahsoka Tano out in the open who, ironically, was hunting for him after separating from three other stranded Jedi she found, the younglings Kalifa, O-Mer, and Jinx. This sentence is really choppy; it's like 10% substance, 90% context. Please reword.
  • "which was the site of the destroyed prisoner ship that the Trandoshans had been using to capture prey." This really comes out of the blue. Did they return there because the ship had been destroyed, or did they return there only to find the ship destroyed?
  • In fact, that whole paragraph is somewhat of a mess. I recommend rewriting it entirely. 1358 (Talk) 20:52, February 11, 2018 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • The intro currently makes it sound like Lo-Taren was entirely alone up until the start of the second paragraph, could you reword it to mention that he was with the group? Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:21, October 12, 2017 (UTC)
    • Better?--Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:07, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
      • I think you should still mention that he didn't bring her to Wasskah or the island alone, after all he only brought her back to the ship, he wasn't responsible for much after that. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:16, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
  • I don't think Lo-Taren appearing in Card Trader is really worth mentioning in the BTS and generally you only need to include the 2015 edition cards in the appearances because those are the only ones with text exclusive to the app. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:21, October 12, 2017 (UTC)
    • Maybe not, so I'll remove it from the BtS. As for the Sources, I'm not sure. He did receive a card of his own. The second to last picture is even sourced from it. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:21, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
      • Is it the only place in canon that it can be sourced too? Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:16, October 15, 2017 (UTC)
        • There's an EU card game called Attax that also features the image. I'm not certain about the card game's canonocity, however, although it does include cards featuring Rogue One and TFA stuff. That image is cut off at the feet, though, and we don't have a page for Attax. The only redlink I found for it was on a Clone Wars magazine issue from before the canon reboot. I think I asked about this card game elsewhere, though I don't recall where. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 02:35, October 16, 2017 (UTC)
          • Lol I asked that in the section right above this. Take a look at that and let me know your thoughts. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 02:44, October 16, 2017 (UTC)
            • I assume that since Attax is a Topps product it's released in sets like their normal cards? The set that Lo-Taren is in is only canon if it came out after the re-boot just like any other Topps set. If the card is the only canon source of the image you'll need to make a page for it on the Card Trader wiki to link too. Ayrehead02 (talk) 19:28, October 16, 2017 (UTC)
              • Looking at another card from Lo-Taren's set, it seems that particular set is from 2012, before the reboot. I suppose this means that with it being the current card trader, that image is established in both legends and Canon, so I guess I will need to make a page on the CT Wiki to link Lo-Taren's card too. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 20:40, October 22, 2017 (UTC)
  • In the "Wookiees versus Trandoshans" sub-section could you re-word the start? The way it's currently written is as though we've already learned that the ship was destroyed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:21, October 12, 2017 (UTC)
  • My dating objection from Krix will also apply here. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:21, October 12, 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Hey, given that Lo-Taren's date of death differs between Canon and Legends, should I mention that in the BtS? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 09:15, August 17, 2017 (UTC)

  • Well, I, for one, would find such stuff interesting. But only if you can properly source the Legends date, of course. Imperators II(Talk) 21:14, September 24, 2017 (UTC)
    • I'll probably look into it then. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 12:47, September 26, 2017 (UTC)
      • Added it, as it appears the Fact File put Wookiee Hunt into 21 BBY. Though according to the page for the TCWDate Template, there was apparently an editorial mistake somewhere, as the section for dates said 20 BBY, while the intext date said 21. When the atlas dated Witches of the Mist and Brothers, the authors apparently went with the former date. Wacky. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 02:57, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

  1. Inqvote Idle objections. 1358 (Talk) 22:20, February 25, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:21, February 25, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Imperators II(Talk) 22:26, February 25, 2018 (UTC)