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Lancer Brunou
- Nomination by: Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 14:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC) - Nomination comments: DarkStryder is back. Beware.
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Support
Cull Tremayne 17:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)- Chack Jadson (Talk) 20:28, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
LOST? Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)- Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- [Redacted by administration] -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose
- Toprawa:
Can something not be worked into the article explaining, per the BTS, that he eventually jumped ship to return to Sarne?- I'm not entirely sure it can be. Brunou has no fixed fate in the adventure, leaving it to the whim of the gamemaster and players. He's not mentioned again in the series, and adding a possible fate when there is a choice of two seems to close to speculation.
- My concern and interpretation of this is that the article asserts he survives as long as until the artifact is chucked out into space. Is there more adventure content that can happen after this point in which he can still die/not die? I'm taking this to mean that even though he can die at any point, the article asserts he lives and thus I would think that he would live long enough to join the FarStar and abandon ship, if you understand what I'm saying. Is this incorrect? Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:44, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- I understand the confusion. The point at which Brunou can die is during the confrontation with the FarStar crew to gain possession of the Plaque; the adventure asserts that Brunou survives long enough for the crew to figure out what is going on and attempt to take the Plaque from him. The outcome is up to the Gamemaster; if he is allowed to survive, he joins the crew until he can jump ship at the first opportunity. That's why I have the confrontation worded vaguely as "Managing to get it away from Brunou—who had become defensive of his prize—the crew sent the artifact into space" with no explanation of the incident. Beyond this point, there is no further story to that particular adventure, and no future mention of him. - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 11:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- In that case, I would recommend specifying in the BTS exactly at what point in the adventure he can die. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- I understand the confusion. The point at which Brunou can die is during the confrontation with the FarStar crew to gain possession of the Plaque; the adventure asserts that Brunou survives long enough for the crew to figure out what is going on and attempt to take the Plaque from him. The outcome is up to the Gamemaster; if he is allowed to survive, he joins the crew until he can jump ship at the first opportunity. That's why I have the confrontation worded vaguely as "Managing to get it away from Brunou—who had become defensive of his prize—the crew sent the artifact into space" with no explanation of the incident. Beyond this point, there is no further story to that particular adventure, and no future mention of him. - Cavalier One
- My concern and interpretation of this is that the article asserts he survives as long as until the artifact is chucked out into space. Is there more adventure content that can happen after this point in which he can still die/not die? I'm taking this to mean that even though he can die at any point, the article asserts he lives and thus I would think that he would live long enough to join the FarStar and abandon ship, if you understand what I'm saying. Is this incorrect? Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:44, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not entirely sure it can be. Brunou has no fixed fate in the adventure, leaving it to the whim of the gamemaster and players. He's not mentioned again in the series, and adding a possible fate when there is a choice of two seems to close to speculation.
Not an objection, but I made a minor change in wording here, and I just want to make sure I haven't changed the meaning here at all: "and he ordered Jelok to abandon the secondary base camp after he reported Tansad missing and that two technicians with him were shot by sniper fire from the jungle." Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)- Seems fine to me. - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 15:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- Seems fine to me. - Cavalier One
- Some things:
You refer to the enemies as both hostiles, and "hostiles". Please standardize it.- Standardized to hostiles without the quotation marks.
Also, are there any more details on what/who exactly the hostiles are? Are they the missing troopers?- That's my reading of it, implied by the fact that the Plaque of Victory increases hostile feelings and turns people against each other, and that the troops who went out in search of the hostiles turn up dead in the exact spot that the remaining troopers fired at. However, it's never spelt out specifically in the article. Add this to the fact that there is an adventure hook that shows that the Aaris species are not entirely extinct, makes it a little unclear, so I erred on the side of caution on this one by not pinning it down. - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 15:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- That's my reading of it, implied by the fact that the Plaque of Victory increases hostile feelings and turns people against each other, and that the troops who went out in search of the hostiles turn up dead in the exact spot that the remaining troopers fired at. However, it's never spelt out specifically in the article. Add this to the fact that there is an adventure hook that shows that the Aaris species are not entirely extinct, makes it a little unclear, so I erred on the side of caution on this one by not pinning it down. - Cavalier One
- Good job, Cav. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
"However, during his time on Aaris III, Kal'Shebbol had fallen to New Republic forces, and the transmission was intercepted by the crew of the CR90 corvette FarStar." If the fall of Kal'Shebbol led to the FarStar intercepting the message, it should probably be mentioned in the biography too. Green Tentacle (Talk) 00:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)- Added mention into the biography. - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 12:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Added mention into the biography. - Cavalier One
Comments
- Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 02:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)