Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/L'ulo L'ampar

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L'ulo L'ampar

• Nominated by: Cwedin^(talk) 08:51, January 16, 2016 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: My first character nom

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Support

1. AnilSerifoglu (talk) 02:51, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
2. Figured it was high time I reviewed this considering events in the comic from earlier this year. Cevan (talk) 22:07, August 13, 2017 (UTC)
3. A interesting character. JS-4422 (talk) 10:19, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
4. Good job with the objections. I believe I've adequately dissected the article and that other reviewers will find what I've missed. Glad to see such a major Canon undertaking. 1358 ^(Talk) 23:48, December 10, 2017 (UTC)
   • Thanks for the review, the article looks a heck of a lot better! - Cwedin^(talk) 04:25, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
5. Nicely done. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:32, January 13, 2018 (UTC)
6. Article is completely updated. Yo.-User:Fan26 (Talk) 03:54, January 20, 2018 (UTC)
7. Very nice! Imperators II^(Talk) 20:46, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Manoof

• Straight off the bat, this page is in a maintenance category (templates with invalid url parameters). You'll have to go through your urls and fix this. It'll probably be one of your references, check the template page as it probably doesn't need the full url. For example, the starwars.com links don't need the http://www.starwars.com/ section of the url, and including it adds it to the category. I only noticed as I'm cleaning these categories up. As it's a nomination, I thought I'd drop a note so you can keep it in mind for future edits/nominations :) Manoof (talk) 10:17, April 19, 2016 (UTC)
  • Nice catch! - Cwedin^(talk) 22:26, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

Exiled Jedi

• Per FAN rule 9, this article cannot have any redlinks.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 02:56, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
  • Alright, I think I snagged 'em all. - Cwedin^(talk) 01:57, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

Ecks Dee

• "Near the war's end, Lieutenant L'ampar participated in the Rebellion's attack on the Galactic Empire's second Death Star in the Battle of Endor," I feel like it's not entirely fair to call it "near the end" as it went on for another year and Endor can be considered the tipping point.
  • Fair point, fixed.
    • Is there some sort of more specific canonical timeline for this? I gather from the bio that three months after Endor, L'ulo was informed there was no foreseeable end, and then that the war ended "less than a year later", which could mean 3+10 months for example (making "final year" inaccurate). If you can't find a more specific timeline, I suggest replacing the "final year" with just 4 ABY.
      • Lost Stars states that Jakku was a year and four days after Endor, so I'd say "less than a year" is accurate. I would use "nine months later," but it isn't clear when the NR was formed.
        • Erm, how exactly is "a year and four days" less than a year? Either go with penultimate, or better yet, just "4 ABY".
          • My intended wording was "less than a year [after Bey resignation and the NR's formation], Jakku happened." Since Bey resigned 3 months after Endor, and Endor was 12 months before Jakku, it has to be less than a year... Also, 4 ABY wouldn't be correct in this instance, so I've just rephrased the sentence to be in relation with Endor.
            • I'm talking about the intro. "In the war's final year, Lieutenant L'ampar participated in the Rebellion's attack on the Galactic Empire's second Death Star in the Battle of Endor"
              • Oh, my bad. Fixed.
• " which former–Rebellion leader Leia Organa viewed as a threat to the New Republic." I'm not entirely sure what purpose the dash here serves.
  • It served absolutely none, and it's gone.
• "L'ampar's comrades mourned his death, and Dameron located Tekka on the desert planet Jakku, completing Black Squadron's mission." This almost makes it sound as if Dameron wasn't one of the comrades mourning his death. You need a better way to connect the first clause with the rest of the sentence.
  • I've broken it up into two sentences and rephrased it a bit.
• The MoS stipulates that ranks only be capitalized when they precede a name. Not the case here: "Holding the rank of Lieutenant, L'ampar flew as a Rebel pilot in Green Squadron"
  • Fixed.
• In the same sentence, you have two consecutive clauses with flying/flew; please reword: "L'ampar flew as a Rebel pilot in Green Squadron, flying an RZ-1 A-wing interceptor"
  • I've changed the instance of "flying" to "operating."
• I don't think Battle of Endor is linked in the body at all. I'd sofixit but I'm not sure where to put it.
  • Done.
• "the Executor, an Executor-class Star Dreadnought[9] and the mightiest ship in the Imperial Navy." Can "mightiest" be sourced to whatever it's sourced to right now? In any case, I recommend finding a better description such as being the command ship in the Battle ( Super Star Destroyer in the Encyclopedia (original site is defunct))
  • I've updated the description as suggested.
• Based on the body, L'ampar automatically assumed/was given command as a result of Green Leader's sacrifice. I feel like this could be better explained in the intro (maybe "assumed command"?).
  • Done.
• "When L'ampar was approached by Green Four Shara Bey, she inquired if she could join the festivities." This needs to be reworded: She approaches L'ampar TO inquire; this can probably be fixed by removing the "When" and and replace the "she" with "who".
  • Done.
• "Informed of their new mission, the troops, led by Solo and the Pathfinders, launched an assault on the outpost. Aided by the Ewoks, the Rebels defeated the remaining Imperials, only to discover Imperial data and communications confirming that the war was not yet over." This is not particularly relevant to L'ampar and can be condensed into a single sentence.
  • Done.
• "Seventeen days after the Battle of Endor, L'ampar commanded Green Squadron, and with the BTL-A4 Y-wing assault starfighter/bombers of Feral Group, he engaged Imperial starfighters in the battle of Cawa City. The capital of Sterdic IV, Cawa City was was dominated by persisting Imperial forces." Several issues here. The second sentence exists only to give context here and it feels out of place especially as it comes after the first mention of Cawa City. Furthermore, naming the starfighter model of Feral Group is probably not important here; it can be mentioned later on. The battle of Cawa City is also a conjectural name and linking it like that is discouraged.
  • I've restructured the phrasing and moved the links around.
    • Was L'ampar also commanding Feral Group? If not, you should probably move the "alongside Feral group" to after the endash clause to make it clear.
      • Done.
• "Soon after, the Rebellion formally created the New Republic" As far as I know, the rebellion turned into the New Republic rather than creating the NR as a separate instance, which is what it sounds like here.
  • Fixed.
• In "Mission to the Crèche", you have two consecutive sentences where something's being created. This gets a bit repetitive.
  • Changed "created" to "organized."
• "Black Squadron then lost contact with Dameron, and a moment before L'ampar entered the cavern to find him, the transmission was restored." Did he enter the cavern anyway? This is either a tense issue or very unclear.
  • He did not enter the cavern. I've reworded it, but I'm not sure if it's any clearer.
• "Dameron reported that he was fine, but he found a tracker on his ship, and the First Order was likely to arrive soon." Same issue here. Did he find it after reporting he was fine? Or should it this be more like "that he was fine but that he had found a tracker..."?
  • The second one. I've rephrased it that way.
• re[[fuel]] This kind of linking is discouraged as the first part of the word does not become part of the link. Please pipelink the entire word.
  • Fixed.
• Can we please replace the parenthetical clause with endashes instead? (or anything else for that matter)
  • Done. - Cwedin^(talk) 01:10, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
• Halfway there. I'll go over the first half once more once these are addressed. 1358 ^(Talk) 21:36, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
• For what it's worth, it's not necessary to list every single organization in the command tree in the affiliation section in the infobox. Right now, words get cut off due to the indenting. I'd recommend removing the Military/Fleet and Military/Navy bullets.
  • Done.
• Right now Palpatine's death is kind of intro-exclusive; it's only implied in the bio. I'd recommend replacing "Succeeding in their mission" with something like "With the superweapon gone and Emperor Palpatine dead..."
  • Done.
• "The attack brought down the Executor's shields, and Crynyd, seeing a chance to even the odds, sacrificed himself in a suicide run to destroy the capital ship's bridge" This is referenced to the Databank but I can't see it there.
  • It's from the image 5 caption in the history gallery. The A-wing Databank page/gallery is referenced a few times, so I just lopped them into a single reference. Should they be broken up a bit?
    • Ah, didn't see that. It's fine as it is.
• "Not wanting to leave unfinished business, General Han Solo held a briefing in Bright Tree Village, for which L'ampar was present." Can this be rewritten from L'ampar's perspective, i.e. "L'ampar was present at blah blah"? 1358 ^(Talk) 10:05, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
  • Done.
• I'd like to see the biography further subsectioned. "Empire's end" can be split into an Endor section and a post-Endor section. "Mission to the Crèche" and "Visiting Grakkus" can both be split into two, and Legacy can be its own subsection.
  • Done. I'll look into grabbing some additional quotes.
    • Leaving this unstruck until quotes are found.
      • Quotes are now in. - Cwedin^(talk) 03:39, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
• "Soon after Dameron joined, he underwent missions allowing the Resistance to intercept intelligence claiming that Luke Skywalker, Organa's exiled brother and the last Jedi in the galaxy, was being searched for by the First Order. Desperate to find him first, Organa tasked Dameron to locate Lor San Tekka, an explorer believed to know Skywalker's whereabouts." Can we condense this a bit? It doesn't concern L'ampar very much.
  • Done.
• "simply requesting "leverage."" I feel like this stands out a bit. It's pretty clear that he's requesting aid and you should probably just go with that.
  • Not sure why I kept that quote.
• " the Duros flew past the enemy platform" What platform are we talking about here? 1358 ^(Talk) 17:27, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
  • The aforementioned First Order transport. I've added a new link and made the word choice more consistent. - Cwedin^(talk) 03:05, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
• Good job so far. I'll continue with my review shortly. 1358 ^(Talk) 19:42, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

Ecks Dee, part deux

• "Once the squadron arrived in the space station which operated the prison" This needs to be clarified. How does a space station operate a prison? A cursory glance at the space station article seems to indicate the space station merely projected an anti-gravity field on the surface prison to protect the prisoners from the high gravity outside the field.
  • That's correct. I've rephrased it a bit.
• "However, the guards had been bribed" Do we know who bribed the guards?
  • Terex. I've added that info and moved his re-introduction to earlier in the section.
• "The Grakks then picked up L'ampar and the other pilots" Where do they get picked up? The prior sentence indicates they entered the castle but this one explicitly says Dameron entered his home.
  • The building is surrounded by a gated wall. I've clarified the sentence.
• "When L'ampar questioned if they should enter Grakkus' fortress and check on him, but Pava replied that trusting Dameron was a safer option than facing the mob of prisoners. As Pava finished" Finished doing what? Talking? Also, "When…, but" isn't a proper sentence construction.
  • Fixed. I don' english gud.
• It's been a while since Terex was mentioned and I for one had to scroll up to find out. Maybe some brief context could be useful when he's reintroduced here.
  • Fixed, per above.
• In general, "Visiting Grakkus" is quite PBP in some parts and you should take a look and see if you can make it more concise. You don't need to cover every remark L'ulo makes to Dameron and vice versa.
  • I've got a bad habit of doing that. (The Layout Guide's "level of detail" bit gets to my head sometimes.)
• "and the crowd of prisoners outside Grakkus' walls began to break into the enclosure. L'ampar and the rest of Black Squadron were quickly outnumbered, so Dameron told his squadron to retreat into Grakkus' fortress" What exactly is the enclosure here? The fortress? Then how can they retreat into the fortress in the second sentence?
  • I've added some more context.
• "also telling the Duros to retrieve guns for them." From where?
  • Good question. I'd guess from the prisoners, but it's unclear.
• "Fully armed, Black Squadron shot down the door to Grakkus' fortress" I'm not sure you can shoot down a door; that's generally reserved for air/space combat. I would've changed it to "destroyed" but I'm not familiar with the source so I don't know if they destroyed it or just shot a hole in it.
  • Destroyed works.
• "Black Squadron returned to the orbiting station, finding a shuttle for the Hutt." How did they return there? They arrived on the planet with a ferry, but how did they get back? Did they find a shuttle on the space station or was the shuttle used for getting into orbit?
  • I don't think there's an answer. They're on the surface, telling Luta they're coming up, and on the next comic panel, they're back in the station.
• "When L'ampar and the rest of Black Squadron discovered Dameron's plight" How did they discover it?
  • Deus ex machina, it seems.
    • LFL needs to hire me as a CinemaSins type reviewer to catch these things. :P
• The PBP issue mentioned earlier is also present in "Sacrifice". You don't need to tell the reader about every single line of dialogue shared between Black Squadron. 1358 ^(Talk) 13:48, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
  • Done. - 02:57, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
• "Once in orbit around Megalox Beta, the squadron landed in a space station, which projected a protective field upon a section of the planet's surface. Luta explained that Megalox Beta had a gravitational pull which was ten times standard, and the planet's gravity would crush any prisoners who attempted to leave the shielded area.[20]" I feel like these two sentences could use some reorganizing. I think you should fit all the info on the space station's protective field and the gravity in the second sentence.
  • I felt the need to trim down on some details to make it work, but I think it's fine.
    • Much better.
• "Terex exited the courtyard and walked through the criminal mob, which parted for him." Are we talking about the same crowd that attacked the pilots earlier? If so, you need to make it clear. Right now it sounds like they gave up the attack and went home, instead of remaining there and camping outside the courtyard.
  • Fixed.
• "Before the enemy ships could destroy Kun's fighter, they were obliterated by Muva, who had secretly boarded the Carrion Spike and sabotaged its targeting computers to attack its own fleet." Who destroyed the enemy ships? Muva or the reprogrammed targeting computers?
  • Fixed.
• For a character with so many appearances, the P&T sure seems a bit skimpy. Are we sure nothing more can be said about him?
  • I'm not really sure what more could be said, but I'll look through the appearances again and add anything noteworthy. Are you looking for specific examples of his actions, or just an analysis of his character?
    • I'm not looking at anything in particular per se, but for a character with such a long biography, two short paragraphs seems on the short side. I feel like his relationship with Bey and Dameron could be elaborated further. I noticed the phrase "never backing out of a fight" in the Legacy and that sounds like something worth covering in the P&T. Just by looking at the quotes used in the article, I think you could definitely include him being enraged by the shooting of the pods (Sacrifice section). I recommend you go through all the source material and see if there's more that can be said about him, particularly reactions to things (quotes, etc). I haven't read the source material, but see what you can do.
      • I've fleshed it out a bit more. Still a WIP, though. - Cwedin^(talk) 04:53, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
        • Let me know when you have the final version and I'll have a look. 1358 ^(Talk) 22:47, October 27, 2017 (UTC)
          • I finished up the run-through, and I think I've got everything.
• The same goes, although to a smaller extent, for the S&A. His prowess with a blaster belongs here, not in the Equipment section. See if you can add some more stuff to both the P&T and the S&A.
  • I think the S&A section is pretty comprehensive as is, but I'll see what more I can find.
• I've done some minor rewording in my latest copy-edit so make sure to go through it and ensure everything is still accurate. 1358 ^(Talk) 21:03, October 3, 2017 (UTC)
  • Looks good. - Cwedin^(talk) 22:13, October 12, 2017 (UTC)
• Another image would definitely fit somewhere around the S&A/Equipment sections.
  • Done.
• I think you could make his leadership of Green Squadron its own sentence in S&A.
  • Done.
• It is my understanding that the L'ulo stand was Bey's invention; this should definitely be included in the S&A as well.
  • I think L'ulo created the maneuver. From BTA: [Poe] had one maneuver left that he could think of, one his mother had told him she'd seen one other pilot do, only once, and that in atmosphere. A L'ullo [sic] Stand, she'd called it.
• I don't suppose there's anything custom about the A-wing he flew, like paintjobs or something?
  • Nope, nothing remarkable.
• No other equipment he used? Minor things can be included as well.
  • Found a couple more things to add.
• Based on the Equipment quote, he seems to insist on using A-wings while everyone is else uses X-wings. Is this emphasized somewhere else in the source material? Would definitely be worth mentioning if he was "stuck in the past" so to say.
  • I don't think that's the case. Other Resistance A-wings are depicted/mentioned in Poe Dameron Annual 1 and Join the Resistance, and the Black Squadron X-wing pilots were previously NR X-wing pilots. I think they just fly what they know or whatever's available.
• I'm a bit hesitant about the inclusion of this in the Bts. "In a 2017 article on StarWars.com, L'ampar was listed as one of eight significant Star Wars characters from Marvel Comics, along with Aphra, O-MR1, Shara Bey, Pash Davane, Loo Re Anno, Evaan Verlaine, and Agent Terex." Yes, it's a StarWars.com article, but from what I see, it's by a guest/fan writer and not really an official list. Toprawa put it well on another FAN.
  • Makes sense. Gone.
• Same goes for the external link to the SW.com article in question. I don't think it really warrants an inclusion.
  • Fixed.
• Reference 28 requires proper linking as per WP:S.
  • Done.
• References 29, 31, and 34 require backup links as per WP:S.
  • For the Marvel ref, Wayback is giving me "Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt." Should I find another reference, or is there a work around?
    • I've fixed it for you. Usually prefixing the URL you want archived with web.archive.org/web/ gives you a working link. 1358 ^(Talk) 14:39, November 9, 2017 (UTC)
• I'd recommend you move the Imagecat to the Appearances. It's a bit hidden below the reference scroll box. 1358 ^(Talk) 22:47, October 27, 2017 (UTC)
  • Done. - Cwedin^(talk) 04:05, November 8, 2017 (UTC)

Ecks Dee, part trois

• Ok, just some more, we're almost done here.
• Looking at the intro in Oasis, which is how the majority of our desktop readers see it, it definitely seems to be quite long. I'd like to see it trimmed a bit; something like 25% or about 2.5 paragraphs instead of the current 3 would be optimal. On a quick glance, the part that starts with "During this time" (4 sentences) could definitely be cut down to 2; right now almost that entire paragraph is dedicated to his relationship with Bey.
  • I've trimmed it down a bit.
    • This can still be further condensed. "In the year 4 ABY, Lieutenant L'ampar participated in the Rebellion's attack on the Galactic Empire's second Death Star in the Battle of Endor, flying an A-wing in Green Squadron. When Green Leader Arvel Crynyd died in the attack, L'ampar assumed command of the squadron. The battle ended soon after, seeing the destruction of the Death Star and death of Galactic Emperor Sheev Palpatine. Despite the Alliance's triumph at Endor, the Empire was not defeated, and the Galactic Civil War raged on." Four whole sentences on the Battle of Endor here; can definitely be cut down to two or even one. 1358 ^(Talk) 22:48, November 23, 2017 (UTC)
      • Alright, how's it look now?
        • I made a minor wording tweak; please check. 1358 ^(Talk) 23:48, December 10, 2017 (UTC)
          • Looks perfect. - Cwedin^(talk) 04:25, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
• "Encountering the Crèche" could definitely accommodate an image. 1358 ^(Talk) 14:39, November 9, 2017 (UTC)
  • Done. - Cwedin^(talk) 00:07, November 22, 2017 (UTC)
• I don't suppose we can find a picture of L'ulo's A-wing for the S&A instead? An image from the comics would be better than a random movie image thrown in. 1358 ^(Talk) 22:48, November 23, 2017 (UTC)
  • Good point. Updated. - Cwedin^(talk) 04:32, December 2, 2017 (UTC)

AV

• Since we now know Arvel Crynyd's rank was commander, would you mind adding it to the article? - AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 22:15, October 12, 2017 (UTC)
  • It's a bit redundant since he's already called Green Leader, but I'll sneak it in there. - Cwedin^(talk) 22:19, October 12, 2017 (UTC)

Imperators

• Rebel Alliance Starfighter Corps is infobox-exclusive.
  • Fixed.
• BTS should mention where L'ulo's last name was provided.
  • Done.
• The infobox death field should provide a location, i.e., "over a desert planet" or something like that. Imperators II^(Talk) 13:53, January 5, 2018 (UTC)
  • And done. - Cwedin^(talk) 21:12, January 5, 2018 (UTC)
• The intro identifies Organa as a leader of the Alliance while the body only calls her a "war hero."
  • Corrected.
• Also, the intro states the Resistance's goal was to protect the Republic, which is not supported by the body.
  • Amended.
• Isn't "Black Squadron's final encounter with Terex" rendered outdated by the more recent Poe Dameron issues?
  • Definitely. I've changed final to third.
• Please confirm these names can actually be sourced to the current references in Bio: RZ-1 A-wing interceptor, Bothan spynet, Sheev Palpatine, Death Star II, Alliance High Command, Wedge Antilles, All Terrain Armored Transport, Atmospheric Assault Landers, and TIE/fo space superiority fighters.
  • Dug up refs for all of 'em.
• "exited hyperspace above the forest moon of Endor, approaching the superweapon[9]" - since ROTJ can't technically be used as for referencing L'ulo's actions, this should either be referenced to Shattered Empire if possible, or rephrased to allow using ROTJ as a reference.
  • I think it works now.
• Is there any indication as to where the Rebel fighters were kept on standby and where L'ulo and Bey talked? Was it one of the ships? Can it be identified to a class, maybe?
  • Not really, no. L'ulo and Bey talked in a hangar large enough for several X- and A-wings, could be an MC80, but I'm not sure.
• Can "Rebel intelligence" be linked to something?
  • Sure can: Signal Intelligence (Rebel Alliance)
• "explosive clusters"... is that all the terminology the source uses? If so, we may need an article for it, otherwise it doesn't really make much sense. If not, it should be clarified.
  • The comic says "clusters," as in multiple bombs. I've changed the text to "clusters of explosives."
• "magnetized to the walker" - the usage of the verb "magnetize" here is off.
  • Fixed. (I think)
• "establishes that Dameron is thirty-two years old by the time of Star Wars: Episode VII The Force Awakens, meaning he was born in 2 ABY" --there's a missing link here, a piece of information identifying TFA as taking place in 34 ABY, I think.
  • Revised.
• Wouldn't "landed on a space station" be more appropriate wording?
  • Sure.
• A "ferry"? Really? :D This either needs context/rephrasing or an article.
  • "Transport" might be more appropriate. It's basically a 10-seated AT-AT head with landing gear.
    • Should it not have an article of its own? Imperators II^(Talk) 10:12, January 27, 2018 (UTC)
      • Done
• You use "fortress", "palace" and "castle," but not all of those are interchangeable in meaning.
  • Tell that to Charles Soule. :P I've kept fortress and tossed out the others.
• Can you clarify this? "Accompanied by Grakkus, Black Squadron returned to the orbiting station, finding a shuttle for the Hutt." Did Black Squadron board the ferry with Grakkus and return to the station, where they proceeded to find a shuttle for Grakkus while themselves boarding their starfighters?
  • That's the gist of it. They get back to the station off-screen, presumably on the AT-AT head thing. On the station, Poe jokes that Grakkus won't fit in an X-wing, so they basically steal one of the station's shuttles, which are conveniently Hutt-sized and parked in the same hangar as their starfighters.
• I get that the astromech droids "overrode the space station's controls," but was there no crew aboard who would try to stop the inmate Grakkus from being broken out?
  • The droids beat up the crew.
    • Oh dear... Imperators II^(Talk) 10:12, January 27, 2018 (UTC)
• "With Terex gone and the escape shuttles safe," - you mean "escape pods," right?
  • I meant evac shuttles. "Escape shuttles, escape pods, Tide pods, Pod People, ..."
• Please identify Organa as a General earlier in the body.
  • Done.
• Aren't the comics written in block capitals? If so, how can we know "Ugly starfighters" are capitalized like that?
  • Yes, and we can't. I've changed it to lowercase.
• Can you clarify and/or add context to both clauses here? They're a bit too vague: "avenged the destroyed escape pod, and proclaimed victory"
  • The "avenging" bit isn't even needed.
• "a First Order fleet arrived, finishing off Terex's forces." - you only explain Terex was considered renegade in the next sentence, so right now this part makes little sense plotwise.
  • Rewrote that.
• "and how he had learned that individuals were not flesh" - is "he" referring to Dameron or Skywalker? Also, does the source explicitly say "not flesh and bones"? Because saying something like "not merely flesh and bones" would make more sense.
  • Skywalker, and "We're not just flesh and bone."
• "In the time after the funeral, Dameron continued Black Squadron's search for Tekka," --it feels to me like this would be more accurately referenced to the later issues of Poe Dameron.
  • Done.
• Just want to confirm this: do the Poe Dameron comics give explicit temporal relation to the events of Before the Awakening? You specifically reference stuff like "Less than a year later," to the comics.
  • Before the Awakening shows Poe joining the Resistance "in the months before TFA," and the comic is set between BTA and TFA. Should I write up a note for that reference?
    • Yes, you should, since apparently the month/year stuff comes from BTA, not the comics. Imperators II^(Talk) 10:12, January 27, 2018 (UTC)
      • And done. - Cwedin^(talk) 20:17, January 27, 2018 (UTC)
        • Sorry, but since the ref has to be self-contained, it still needs to be clarified for the reader:
          • What has Poe's joining the Resistance got to do with L'ulo joining the Black Squadron?
          • "L'ulo L'ampar's service in Black Squadron was requested" --as depicted in which source? BTA, TFA, or Poe Dameron 1?
          • "Dameron's completion of a L'ulo Stand" --again, as depicted in which source?
          • Also, Poe Dameron 1 doesn't explicitly mention Before the Awakening, so you need to get into a little more detail with the claim that "Poe Dameron 1: Black Squadron, Part I is set between Before the Awakening and The Force Awakens." Imperators II^(Talk) 19:54, January 28, 2018 (UTC)
            • I think I've got it sorted out now. - Cwedin^(talk) 20:28, January 28, 2018 (UTC)
• "As a pilot of the Rebellion and Resistance, L'ampar wore a green flight suit and helmet[5]" --can L'ulo wearing the blahblah while serving with the Alliance can really be sourced to the Poe Dameron comics?
  • Nope. I've doubled up the reference with Shattered Empire.
• Do we need Canon articles for smoking and pipe?
  • Pipe, sure; smoking, nah. There's only a single comic panel of L'ulo with a pipe, and it's unclear whether or not he's actually smoking anything.
• Equipment section should mention L'ulo was carrying a blaster rifle (and gas canisters?) during the Megalox events.
  • Nevermind, apparently we don't mention one-mission items there. Imperators II^(Talk) 01:25, January 27, 2018 (UTC)
• There's room enough for an image in the BTS. Imperators II^(Talk) 00:20, January 27, 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure what's best here, so I've just added the cover of Shattered Empire 1. - Cwedin^(talk) 04:05, January 27, 2018 (UTC)
    • Yeah, that's what I had in mind. Imperators II^(Talk) 10:12, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

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• "sacrificed himself in a suicide run to destroy the capital ship's bridge,[7] consequently giving a field promotion to L'ampar." Was he given a field promotion, or did he simply assume command of the squadron?
  • He assumed command. I've updated the article with that.
• "Despite their victory, General Crix Madine was wary of an Imperial counter-attack, causing some pilots to remain with their starfighters." Did they remain patrolling in orbit or just stay with their fighters? Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:04, January 12, 2018 (UTC)
  • As far as I can tell, they stayed in the hangar bay of whatever ship was housing their starfighters. The comic isn't very explicit, though. - Cwedin^(talk) 04:34, January 13, 2018 (UTC)
    • Perhaps you could add "on standby" to the end of that sentence, or something along those lines? I don't have that comic offhand, does it imply they were ordered to remain on standby? Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:05, January 13, 2018 (UTC)
      • I think that would work. The comic just implies that personnel needed permission to jump ship and join the party. - Cwedin^(talk) 05:27, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Quick note. Although there's no way to know for sure at this point, it's very possible that the Duros on the cover of Star Wars: Poe Dameron 3 is L'ulo. If he's in multiple issues of the Poe Dameron comic, which wouldn't surprise me given his connection to Shara, then this nomination will no longer satisfy FAN requirement #6. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 16:40, April 2, 2016 (UTC)

• I've noticed that too. Hopefully we get an answer come Wednesday! (In the meantime, I'll be copy-editing the article. It could use a cleanup.) - Cwedin^(talk) 17:06, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
  • Want me to do a copy-edit? Whenever I write something, I always miss things that other people end up finding for me. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 17:11, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
    • That would be fantastic! Also, if you have any tips on updating the article's images, that would be great. (I feel they're poorly utilized at the moment.) - Cwedin^(talk) 17:20, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
      • Think I'll do a quick run-through after Brandon. Great Job, Cwedin! Nivlacanator^(talk) 22:36, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
        • Haven't looked at this yet (sorry!), but as it turns out, the Duros in Poe Dameron IS indeed L'ulo. So he'll likely be recurring for awhile now. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 17:31, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
          • Yup, I just picked up a copy. I'll try to keep the article maintained with each issue's release (life allowing). :P - Cwedin^(talk) 17:39, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 20:47, January 28, 2018 (UTC)