Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Krytos virus

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Krytos virus

(5 Inqs/2 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. Nominated.--Colinmcev 06:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. Ebola? Nah!--Goodwood Redstarbird (Alliance Intelligence) 21:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Greyman Jan.png (Talk) 01:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote A nice original idea for an article. Great work Colin --Eyrezer 06:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Wonderfully well-written article. Excellent job, Colin. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  7. Inqvote Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 04:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Object

  1. From the Forest of Goodwood
    • Introduction should be merged into one paragraph; also, the last subsection of it needs to be rewritten for accuracy (the Vratix is a species of insectoid, not a medicine)
      • Although you're obviously 100% correct on the Vratix thing (that was just a typo, now fixed), I really don't think one giant paragraph is the answer here. I agree with Lord Hydronium; the lack of a picture on the side makes them look shorter than they are. Any chance you might change your mind on that objection? --Colinmcev 04:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
        • Could you at least merge either the first two or last two paragraphs? Also, "it was eventually eradicated the Vratix, a bacta-producing medicine from Thyferra, which combined bacta and ryll kor to develop rylca," is still incorrect.--Goodwood Redstarbird (Alliance Intelligence) 12:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
          • I did some expanding to the intro. Let me know if you think it's better. --Colinmcev 15:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
    • A longer introduction may be necessary, given the length of the article itself, that touches on more of the major points.
      • I wouldn't be averse to a longer introduction, although offhand I don't really think it's necessary and might be a bit overdone if it were too long. That being said, do you have any suggestions as to what specific major points should be touched on in the intro that aren't already? If I had that guidance, I'd be cool with making it longer, if need be... --Colinmcev 04:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
        • Infoboxes don't take up that much room...but then my resolution is pretty high. Meh.--Goodwood Redstarbird (Alliance Intelligence) 12:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Please spell out small numbers in the article ("twelve" instead of "12")—this is more a style issue.
      • This is one of my reporter things; AP style says spell the numbers out up until 10, then start using numerals. But I'm down with what you're saying, and I fixed it. --Colinmcev 04:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
        • If I may interject, Colin and I are both journalists, so I understand his using AP style for numerals. I do the same thing, and have encountered inquiry from users reviewing my articles. Please see my current Samoc Farr nomination up the list. This is indeed more of a style issue and as such, since there is no policy regarding the matter, should not be dictated to be done one way or another. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
          • Thanks for addressing this. We're not a newspaper, ya'know... ;-) Goodwood Redstarbird (Alliance Intelligence) 12:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
            • hehe I know. Sometimes my little habits are hard to break. I'll fix the rest of these objections after work today. --Colinmcev 13:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Please replace the numbered list for stages of the disease with prose; this will cut down on the number of ref tags and generally make for a tidier article.
      • Well...this is just my preference (sorry I'm being so difficult! lol) but I like the numbered list for the stages. I know it cuts down the number of ref tags and that shorter paragraphs are a no no, but I felt like this was the way to describe the stages that made the most sense, and I thought it made the article as a whole sort of unique. I did change it to prose, but I'd encourage you and others to compare and contrast the two ways and see if you like the numbered list better. --Colinmcev 04:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
        • The sentiment is understandable, however doing it this way keeps consistency with other articles. Thanks.--Goodwood Redstarbird (Alliance Intelligence) 12:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
    • TIMMMMMBERRRRR!!!--Goodwood Redstarbird (Alliance Intelligence) 03:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. Toprawa:
    • A few things I've noticed after glancing through the article:
    • No era tags?
      • Oops, fixed. --Colinmcev 15:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Your list of aliens infected must be sourced.
    • Source list should be ordered by OOU publication date.
    • Will go through this in its entirety soon. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
    • In the last paragraph of the "Treatment" section, you end each sentence with "against the virus." Please reword to mix it up a little bit.
    • Please add a little bit more in the "Release" section to explain that she allowed the NR to take Coruscant so that they would inherit the infected populace-her plot for their downfall.
      • I hadn't done this originally because I thought it was covered somewhat in Conception, but looking at it now I think you're right that a reference is warranted here as well. Added one. --Colinmcev 23:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Please add a bit here to explain that resentment spread due to Humans being immune, which will help solidify your next sentence mentioning this: "Resentment quickly grew between the Human and non-Human populations"
    • Please reword a little bit to clarify what was quarantined here, Coruscant or the ships? "and many worlds ordered ships from Imperial Center quarantined so the disease would not be spread"
      • It's actually both. I changed it. --Colinmcev 23:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Please link "medevac unit" to something. You may choose to just burn one of your red links with it :P "convinced that medevac units"
      • I guess I'll have to do just that. --Colinmcev 23:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Please pipe link the specific battle you refer to in the image caption for the Bacta War.
      • Done.
    • In this respect, "dangerous" is a bit POVish. Could you choose a different adjective? "a precursor for the much more dangerous Diversity Alliance"
      • I just made a simple switch to violence. What do you think? --Colinmcev 23:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
    • This speculation here doesn't fit well, unless the source explicitly alludes to these possibilities. If not, should be removed: "The Krytos Plague stored in the Emperor's Plague Storehouse was either a different virus with the same name, or Derricote somehow smuggled some of the real Krytos virus into the storehouse in 6.5 ABY."
      • I'm open to any way we can reword it more effectively, but I'm opposed to removing it altogether. This one is tricky because, as we discussed last time around, this is basically an attempt to address a continuity error. In YJK: The Emperor's Plague, one of the characters discovered the Krytos virus being stored, even though the storehouse was sealed up prior to 4 ABY and the virus wasn't created until 6ish ABY. If we were to take it out altogether and not address this at all, I feel like the article would be incomplete. Personally, I feel the wording is acceptable, especially since it's worded the exact same way as in the Evir Derricote article, but again I'm happy to take suggestions.
        • You could keep it just as is if you move it into the BTS. You could create a subsection titled "Inconsistencies" or something and explain the continuity error to an even greater degree. The BTS has some leniency for speculation like that. Toprawa and Ralltiir 06:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
      • Colin, this is an absolutely outstanding, incredibly well-written article. In my opinion, this is the best production you've put forth thus far on the Wook. This was an absolute pleasure to read, and I'm really glad you're apart of our team. The BTS is well-researched, as well. Fantastic. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
        • Thanks, man. This one was a lot more challenging than the character ones, but it was well worth it. (My next one, Gara Petothel, will probably be easier.) I appreciate all the help, as always, and am looking forward to seeing that little star in the corner when it's all said and done. :D --Colinmcev 23:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  3. IIRC, Sian Tevv wasn't actually infected by the virus, but had just been exposed to it. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:43, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Hmm, looks like you're right. Removed --Colinmcev 16:33, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
        • It might be worth mentioning in the history section that there was a risk of his contracting the virus, to illustrate that it wasn't just the poor people who got hit. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 16:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
          • Good idea. I added a reference into the Infections and unrest section. --Colinmcev 23:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
  4. From Greyman:
    • To me, the section "Aliens infected by the Krytos virus" seems redundant almost. Is there any way to include those names in the actual body of the article somewhere? In prose? Greyman Jan.png (Talk) 19:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
      • Sure. I was on the fence about that section anyway, especially considering that millions were actually infected, and that section only identified a small handful. I added the names to the prose and dropped it. --Colinmcev 22:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
  5. Both in the text and in the infobox, you source Baragwin being susceptible to the disease to The Krytos Trap, however, the Baragwin do not appear in that novel. --Eyrezer 01:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
    • My source for them was actually the Ultimate Alien Anthology, which I included cited in a reference to the Baragwin in the legacy section. I added additional citations to the Baragwin references in the text and infobox. --Colinmcev 05:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  6. From the desk of Atarumaster88
    • "One milliliter of an infected patient's blood could infect an adult. If physically injected or ingested, as little as one cubic centimeter was enough to infect a subject. The flesh contact rate was much lower, however, with ten cubic centimeters of viral fluid resulting in only a twenty percent infection rate." This could be clarified some.
      • Got it. --Colinmcev 03:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Make sure all the "Rebel" adjectives are removed, unless presented from the POV of an Imperial. They're the New Republic by this point. I think I got most of them.
      • I found one that you didn't get and fixed it. --Colinmcev 03:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 01:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Approved by Inquisitorius 12:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

  • I figured this was a natural to follow Evir Derricote. It proved to be a pretty big challenge though, especially since there was no real precedent (that I found) to follow for nominating a virus or bioweapon. I found that rather than have a straightforward chronological history of the virus, it was better to talk about the virus a bit first then get into the history, hence the "Biology" and "History" categories and the sub-categories. I hope you'll agree that this was the best way to approach it. And, unfortunately, I don't believe there are any real Krytos pictures out there, but I tried to include as many supporting pics as I could.--Colinmcev 06:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Disagree on the introduction. The lack of a picture on the side makes each paragraph and the whole thing seem shorter than it really is. - Lord Hydronium 03:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm fairly certain I, or another user, can cook up an infobox for this type of article. I'll see what I can do, and post it for your consideration, Colinmcev :) Greyman Jan.png (Talk) 04:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
    • I was thinking the same thing as Greyman. I know we can put one together. ;) Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
      • There are certainly enough diseases to merit one and I have faith in our l33t coding skillz. Blastonecrosis, Emperor's Plague, etc. Suggestions for fields might include a name, created by, created when, species susceptible to, transmission type, maybe incubation period. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 06:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Here you go, Colinmcev :) Template:disease. As with other infoboxes, it has been created so that if a field is left blank, then it will automatically hide when it is saved. Have fun, Greyman Jan.png (Talk) 14:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Sweet, thanks! Nice to have an infobox for this. --Colinmcev 15:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)