- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Jorj Car'das
- Nominated by: Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Co-project with AdmirableAckbar.
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Atarumaster88 
(Talk page) 22:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)- Greyman(Talk) 01:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Janeway 09:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Gonk (Gonk!) 14:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)- -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- A fine read. - Lord Hydronium 10:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Oppose
I'm a touch concerned by the fact that there's nothing cited to Galaxies here. I played the game briefly a few years ago and Car'das' faction was...well, everywhere in the opening levels...I could be mistaken, but I'm sure there's pertinent information to be found in that game. Apologies if I'm wrong, though. Thefourdotelipsis 01:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)- Well, AFAIK, it's just his organization in the game, and not Car'das himself. Seeing as though he was in the Kathol Rift by the time of Galaxies and was not playing a part in the running of the organization, I doubt there's really anything to be added. I'll have a look around for anything, though. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 10:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, he wasn't running the organization. That explains it. And it'll teach me to maybe read the damn thing first. :P Thefourdotelipsis 14:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, AFAIK, it's just his organization in the game, and not Car'das himself. Seeing as though he was in the Kathol Rift by the time of Galaxies and was not playing a part in the running of the organization, I doubt there's really anything to be added. I'll have a look around for anything, though. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 10:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- From the desk of Atarumaster88
The crew of the Bargain Hunter needs a smidgin of context in intro please.- Fixed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
"who believed that Quennto had as secret treasure hold". I almost changed this to "had a secret treasure hold", but I wasn't 100% sure that's what you were aiming for, just 95%.- You were right. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I believe Progga's crew provoked the Chiss, but I could be wrong. Couldn't hurt to be a little more specific there.- Fixed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
"After being held for awhile, Thrawn spoke to them". Sorry, but there's a confusing antecedent for that first phrase and it's making a rather funny mental image.- Fixed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
No context given on the Geroons upon first mention.- Fixed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
"although Thrawn believed they were not good omens." That doesn't make a lot of sense to me in its context. Particularly since Thrawn isn't superstitious.- Changed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
"staring down Kav until he ordered the droid to stand down."- Thought I got that earlier. Fixed now. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The quotes in the Outbound Flight (novel) sections have very little to do with Car'das. Please remedy this.- That's because they are no good quotes. Would you recommend I remove them? I know we don't need quotes for all parts, I just prefer it that way. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'll try and dig up some better ones. Atarumaster88 (Talk page) 15:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'll try and dig up some better ones. Atarumaster88
- That's because they are no good quotes. Would you recommend I remove them? I know we don't need quotes for all parts, I just prefer it that way. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
No context on Miskara.- Well, it mentioned the leader just words earlier, so I feel the reader could make an extrapolation. Nonetheless, changed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Uh, Outbound Flight was not "utterly destroyed."- I can't find that. Could you point it out? Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. "The starfighters had the Vagaari almost entirely defeated when they suddenly changed course and attacked Outbound Flight, utterly destroying it." End of a paragraph beginning with "Car'das firmly believed he would die in the ship." Atarumaster88 (Talk page) 15:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. Fixed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 21:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. "The starfighters had the Vagaari almost entirely defeated when they suddenly changed course and attacked Outbound Flight, utterly destroying it." End of a paragraph beginning with "Car'das firmly believed he would die in the ship." Atarumaster88
- I can't find that. Could you point it out? Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
You're inconsistent between Outbound Flight and "the Outbound Flight". The former is preferred IIRC.- That's because one if referring to the ship and another to the project, the concept. I believe all the times it's talking about the ship is italicized. If you mean we alternate between using the, it's fixed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The assassination attempt on Thrawn by Kav is a bit too long considering it has very little to do with Car'das. If it does pertain to Car'das, his role needs to be more heavily expounded upon.- Removed it. It is fairly trivial to Car'das. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
No link to Force healing or whatever it is?- I wouldn't say it's exactly a Force power, so no. We can discuss this though; on IRC or here. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Meh, I was under the impression Yoda used the Force to heal Car'das. Whatever. Atarumaster88 (Talk page) 15:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- He did, but I'm not sure if it warrants an article. Chack Jadson (Talk) 21:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Meh, I was under the impression Yoda used the Force to heal Car'das. Whatever. Atarumaster88
- I wouldn't say it's exactly a Force power, so no. We can discuss this though; on IRC or here. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Might be important to note that Car'das never actually heard the name Luke Skywalker from Yoda's mouth. The article implies otherwise.- Good catch. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Link to destruction of Caamas.- Got ya. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
No context on Trey David- Now there is. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The Empire didn't actually ruin Emberlene. It was a group of mercs, but the article implies otherwise.- Fixed. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
No context on Dean Jinzler. When I ask for a little context, a few words or a phrase is plenty. I don't need an exposition, just a basic understanding to serve as a lead-in.- Fixed.
- A rather sloppy nom, Chack and Ackbar, at least coming from you. Did you guys forget to copyedit? Anyway, have a Super Terrific Friendly Un-frustrating day. Atarumaster88 (Talk page) 15:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- We were kind of just tired of having it near-complete, but not quite done, and I suppose my copyedit was done in haste. I thought I put it through a spell-check but I guess not. Anyway, I was before this. JK. Thanks for the review. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
There is a mention at page 182 and 183 of The New Essential Guide to Characters that should be added. Janeway 18:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)- Added. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Comments
- His "Affiliation" field in the infobox looks like it is missing a few mentions? Not enough for me to object, if there was a reason you didn't include the obvious ones. Just thought I'd point it out, Greyman(Talk) 01:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm hesitant about adding anything other than his organization because he was very loosely affiliated with them. The Chiss, Republic, NR, he had little connection with them. I suppose I could put in the Sith though. Thanks for the review Greyman and Atarumaster. Chack Jadson (Talk) 20:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)