Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Harrar

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Harrar

(6 Inqs/1 Users/7 total)

Support

Bringbacknom! 20:08 2 July 2007 (UTC) (Vote struck per Single issue voters)
  1. Inqvote Thefourdotelipsis 01:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote It's come a long way. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 14:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Nice job on the objections. Greyman(Paratus) 22:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
  4. Chack Jadson Talk 15:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Cull Tremayne 17:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote -- Darth Culator (Talk) 18:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  7. Inqvote --Eyrezer 12:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Could use some expansion, and there are way too many quotes. Better sectioning is also needed.Darthchristian (Hey!) 13:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  2. From the desk of Ataru
    • Intro: Favour-->favor
    • Intro, Para 1, Line 3, reword sentence about "for the failure of . . . "- doesn't read well
    • Intro, comma after However
    • Intro, Para 2: Faith in what?
    • Intro: Remove speculation about Qorealists
    • Intro: Add a comma after Thus or remove it.
    • Sectioning looks bad. Why is there a single subsection under each section?
    • 1.1: Reword: "It appears that Harrar . . ."- sounds OOU.
    • 1.1: Fix comma errors surrounding "However"
    • 1.2: Given command, not commands
    • 1.2: Reword "And it was there" to "where". Conciseness should be prized.
    • 1.2.1, comma after Falcon
    • 1.2.1, remove comma after dismally
    • 1.3, worshiped should be worshipped
    • 1.3, Para 2, Line 3, add comma after and
    • 1.3.1: Reword to "enough time to recover from the loss of Coruscant" or "enough time to recuperate" or similar
    • 1.3.1, Para 1, line 4, Remove comma after "and"
    • 1.3.1: Jumps from Borleias to Coruscant without explanation. Expand.
    • 1.4: Revealed is mispelled.
    • 1.4: Weasel words on Qorealist part
    • 1.4: comma after "At first"
    • 1.4, Para 1, add comma after However
    • 1.4, Para 3, remove commma after and
    • 1.4: Remove first "her" in "asked her of her discoveries"
    • 1.5: remove "had in fact"; doesn't read well
    • 1.5: reword to say "Harrar stated that learning of the possible connection between the ancient Yuuzhan Vong homeworld and Zonoma Sekot had shattered . . . "
    • 1.5: reword first sentence of 2nd Paragraph
    • 1.5, 2nd Para, add comma after There
    • 1.5.1: learnt-->learned
    • 1.5.1: decapitalize liberation
    • 1.5.1: "for they were the only way to save his people" is POV
    • Too many quotes
    • No P&T
    • I'm a bit rusty on NJO, but I'm sure he had a bigger role than this. Needs expansion.
    • Traitor is not listed under appearances.
    • No info from Enemy Lines I.
    • P&T not sourced yet.
    • Have a nice day.— Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 20:49, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
  3. A few things:
    • Infobox image lacks a proper source and description; it also needs to be cropped.
      • Cropped,sourced, described--Harrar 01:13, 17 August 2007 (GMT)
    • Infobox is poorly formatted: the "|" signs should be in front of the variables, not behind them. ("|name=Harrar", not "name=Harrar|")
      • Done!--Harrar 01:13, 17 August 2007 (GMT)
    • 1.1: "Years" in "Early Years" should be decapitalized per WP:MOS.
      • Done--Harrar 01:13, 17 August 2007 (GMT)
    • 1.3: Odd sentence: "The invasion still continued to proceed well"
      • Changed --Harrar 01:13, 17 August 2007 (GMT)
    I wish I had a catchphrase to put here. --Imperialles 14:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Minorly reword 2nd sentence in intro.
    • All done. Cheers for the help--Harrar 18:18, 22 August 2007 (GMT)
  4. A few suggestions for improvement
    • More detail in intro about Harrar was "instrumental in ending the conflict."
    • Vary starts to sentences in The Elan debacle. "He... He... Harrar... Harrar..." Mix them up a little.
    • Clarify that Khalee Lah did, in fact, die.
    • In "together, they would capture the elusive Jedi," (Resurgence, paragraph 3), "would" should be changed to "planned to," since they did not capture Solo.
    • Way too many "He's" at the beginning of sentences (four in a row) in the 3rd paragraph of Zonama Sekot.
    • In a skirmish with Anor in which he very much had the traitorous Intendant on the back foot? What does this mean?
    • Other than that, the article is pretty good, especially on the P&T. Hobbes15(Tiger Headquarters) 04:42, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Taken into account and changed. Thanks Hobbes, and took out the "back foot" bit - its an English expression for when you're beating someone in a fight.--Harrar 18:18, 22 August 2007 (GMT)
  5. Source it properly. Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Can you elaborate? By "it" do you mean the article in general? If so, I'm not 100% sure on how to do it properly. --Harrar 20:45, 28 August 2007 (GMT)
      • Specifically:
        • Early years: "However, he continued to serve the government of Shimrra Jamaane for many years, viewing the Supreme Overlord as the conduit to the gods."
        • The duty of the priest: Third paragraph.
        • Departure into the unknown: "The deception priest, if that was who he continued to be after such a journey of self-discovery, remained on the living planet and led his people to their new future."
        • Personality and traits: "It was this loyalty to the Yuuzhan Vong which gave Harrar the strength to seemingly betray them."
        • And the infobox, while we're at it. Green Tentacle (Talk) 15:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
      • All sourced. Thanks for your help --Harrar 11:36, 03 September 2007 (GMT)
  • Add to the BTS some general info about the character. Ie Harrar first appeared in X, created by Y, or some such.
  • Why isn't the depiction from the cover of The Final Prophecy used at all? I would argue it has higher canonicity than the Gamer one. And tbh, I don't think there is enough of a difference in the depictions to only use one. --Eyrezer 06:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
    • I doubt it has higher canonicity. And the Gamer one is probably more suited to the infobox. Thefourdotelipsis 08:11, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Well it is only authorial intent. As to it being better suited to infobox, sure. But to not use the pic at all? It's madness! Maybe I'll just have to add it myself... --Eyrezer 12:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Comments

  1. He's not in Enemy Lines I - that appears to have been an erroneous appearance. That's everything about Harrar there as far as I know. P&T sourced, no redlinks, referencing. If anyone could help with pictures that'd be nice. Harrar 16:21, 14 August 2007 (GMT)
    • Ok, thanks for working on it. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 14:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Really sorry about striking people's objections, I mistakenly assumed that's what you did after you had acted upon the suggestions...now I know.Harrar 15:49, 15 August 2007 (GMT)

Remove Nom (Inq only)

  1. Inqvote Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 19:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote Doesn't look like it's going anywhere. Green Tentacle (Talk) 13:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Greyman(Paratus) 19:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Gonk (Gonk!) 01:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)