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Glurrg

(4 Inqs/3 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. This is what the worrt says in ROTJ. ~SavageBOB sig 03:44, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote --Eyrezer 10:50, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 13:44, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
  4. I feel like I've read this fifteen times over the course of four years or so. Incredible. :P Thefourdotelipsis 15:19, August 30, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Green Tentacle (Talk) 16:21, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Please make sure that linking is sufficient in the future. CC7567 (talk) 05:07, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Sorry for the delay. I completely forgot about my outstanding objections. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 12:43, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Object

Savaged…
  • What do you think about putting the Gungan-kissing-glurrg image in the infobox? It's by far the clearest image we have of the critters, so normally, it would be the "showcase" image. Is there any reason to keep it within the body instead?
    • It's actually from concept art of Gungans and so I moved the picture to the BtS. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 02:53, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
  • Any reason to call them a "race" in the intro rather than a species?
  • Similarly, in B&A, you should probably call them a species at some point.
  • Can you switch over to the CSWECite template for The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia?
    • Done. Trying to track down the exact page number to complete the template. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 01:24, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
  • "generally smaller than Gungans." The comparison is good, but perhaps a hard figure for the average Gungan height would be helpful. The various alien anthology/essential guide to aliens books should have this.
  • The B&A section seems to spend a lot of time comparing them to Gungans, yet there is no mention of them possibly being related. If some sort of biological kinship is mentioned in a source somewhere, come out and say so. Otherwise, I'd rewrite this section somewhat to describe the glurrgs in their own right, without the unnecessary comparison to Gungans. More to come. ~SavageBOB sig 15:28, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
    • Cleaned it up a little. No mention of biological kinship AFAIK. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 05:19, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • You need context on Gungans, whether they are first mentioned in the B&A section or the B&I section.
  • "Their labor skills meant that they were at the foundation of many Gungan settlements": This is a bit awkwardly phrased. Do you mean they were present when these settlements were founded? That they were the base upon which the settlements were built?
  • Context needed on Otoh Sancture and why it deserves specific mention in the B&I.
  • "As such a basic component of society, large amounts of technology or resources were not required to sustain the glurrg population at a given settlement, but merely the food they consumed as sustenance and sufficient shelters to house them within." I'm not sure I see the causality here between them being a basic component of society and them not needing many resources to sustain. Perhaps rephrase the introductory part of this sentence to make this relationship clearer?
  • Please check the linking and ensure that everything is linked upon first mention in the body. I caught some of these, but you'll need to take a look as well.
  • Perhaps rather than saying they were skilled enough to change tasks quickly and then listing those tasks, do it the other way around: say what tasks they were skilled at, then say they were able to switch between them rapidly. Currently, the order requires a lot of repetition.
  • Are farms buildings?
  • Context needed on the Gungan Grand Army.
  • Can you elaborate on how they communicate? What does it sound like? And do they understand Basic commands? If not, how do the Gungans give them orders?
    • Added a few words. Impossible to know if the glurrgs understand Basic commands. You order them around ingame, but there's never anything that shows how a particular Gungan commands a glurrg. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 05:19, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • I think you can go into much greater detail about glurrg anatomy. Describe their thin arms, the shape of their legs, their wide mouths, their nails (hoofs?), etc.
  • Context on Boss Gallo.
  • Is Otoh Sancture a city or a village? You have it as both currently.
  • Context on bursas.
  • Is there any alternative way the player can win the scenarios described in the "History" section? If so, we need to use the {{Gamemechanics}} and {{Endgame}} templates.
    • You would pretty much either need cheats in some missions (Spinnaker) or ridiculous amounts of micro-management in others. I consider myself decent at the game and I can't think of how it'd be possible to win some of those missions without more army than you have at the beginning of the missions. And that means getting more units, which means getting/using glurrgs. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 05:19, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Boss Rogoe kind of comes out of nowhere. Can you introduce him earlier in the narrative?
  • Context on bongoes; just saying they were a type of vessel should be enough.
  • Context on the Trade Federation.
  • You sometimes refer to "Gungan civilization" and other times to "civilizations". Which should it be?
    • When referring to Gungans, all mentions now use "civilization" Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 05:19, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Context on Spinnaker.
  • Context on Harte Secur should probably be moved to the same point in the sentence when the town is introduced.
  • Choose either past or present tense for describing in-universe events in your BTS. Currently, things switch around a bit.
  • I think you need to investigate the concept art angle a bit more. Gungan concept art that looks like glurrgs is probably published in quite a few sources, including The Art of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, Episode I Insider's Guide, and Star Wars: The Making of Episode I: The Phantom Menace. You should check to be sure, and possibly list these as "Po" "C|Concept art of Gungans" in the "Sources" list.
    • Nothing that stands out in Art, aside from an image of a Gungan in crab-shell armor that vaguely resembles a glurrg and of course the glurrg-kissing image. I don't have those other sources so I'll need to check around. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 02:53, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
  • Similarly, what source identifies the Gungan-kiss image as picturing a glurrg? If this is concept art, it's default status should not be canon, I think, until another source canonizes it as such.
    • It's specifically described as a concept art and so I've moved it to BtS. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 02:53, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
  • Finally, for the concept art search, please be sure to note the artist name if available. I'm pretty sure most of these glurrg concepts were done by Terryl Whitlatch. That's it for now. I look forward to reading the article again once these are taken care of! :) ~SavageBOB sig 19:19, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
    • Done, but that is not particularly reflective on the quality of the article and shouldn't technically be an objection. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 02:53, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
      • I'll give the article another read-through soon, but I wanted to say that the artist name is pertinent and reflective on the broader article because this artist was the person who created the look of the glurrgs, even if they weren't called glurrgs at the time. At any rate, the signature on File:Gunganconcept.jpg shows that Terryl Whitlatch is the woman who designed the look of the species. ~SavageBOB sig 16:31, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
        • Misunderstood you, thought you were talking about adding the artist name to the image file. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 04:01, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
    • Will address stuff with concept art, CSWEcite, and the anatomy section this week. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 05:19, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Reading through a second time: Context is needed on the Trade Federation in the lead.
    • Fixed, but open to suggestions since my imagination defies me on ways to adequately describe "Trade Federation" without saying "a federation that governed commerce and trade". Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 04:01, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
  • The B&A is still a bit clunky. Why is there all this comparison between glurrgs and Gungans? Describe the glurrgs as their own species and compare to the Gungans only when necessary. It seems that all you need the Gungans for is to establish that the glurrgs were shorter than the average Gungan height, right? Try to reword that section maybe.
  • Their frail constitution should probably be mentioned in B&A as well.
  • Unfortunately, the BTS is only long enough to support a single image, so I'd choose one or the other.
  • Because we now have confirmation that they are non-sentient, it's probably safe to remove the speculative comment about the capitalization of their name. Tis all. Again, good job. ~SavageBOB sig 19:55, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
    • Removed. Still working on hunting down those other obscure sources, then we should be good to go on this one. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 04:01, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
      • I have the sources, but will not have them out of their boxes for another few weeks. If you need help then, I'm happy to oblige! ~SavageBOB sig 20:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
QGJ
  • The fact that the extracted carbon was converted into duraplast is exclusive to the intro. Also, shouldn't there be an article for carbon processing center?
  • As Gallo began a campaign against his enemy, Rogoe Gallo continued to employ glurrgs in his army as harvesters and laborers. The second part is kinda confusing.
  • All from me. Nice job. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 14:54, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
    • Apologies, been very busy IRL. Will get to these this week. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 19:11, August 30, 2011 (UTC)
      • All addressed. Fixed the carbon thing and removed the sentence on the 2nd objection. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 20:36, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
Green Tentacle
  • Just the one. The intro gives some details on the liberation of Spinnaker and Harte Secur that aren't mentioned in the main section. Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:47, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 15:12, September 21, 2011 (UTC)