Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Ghest/Legends

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Ghest

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:47, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Be my ghest, be my ghest...

(4 Inqs/2 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. The ghest who's coming to dinner. ~SavageBOB sig 16:13, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
  2. I ghest i should vote now Manoof (talk) 02:15, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Seeeeeee my vest, see my vest, made from real gorilla chest, feel this sweater, there's no better than authentic Irish setter. IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 00:21, May 23, 2014 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 18:55, September 2, 2014 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 22:53, September 21, 2014 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:54, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Object

Savaged…
  • Be sure that your quote attributions don't have punctuation (like the first one ends in a full stop, but shouldn't).
  • "Originally believed to be responsible for carrying away the souls of the dead, ghests were feared by the sentient Rodians also found on Rodia, due to the fact the predators sometimes attack and ate entire primitive Rodian villages." Can you reword this sentence so that Rodians are mentioned much earlier? The "Originally believed" part doesn't say who believed that, so it sounds like it was a pan-galactic belief, which I know you didn't mean to imply. :)
  • We need context on the FarStar on its first mention in the lead.
  • The Biology and appearance section makes it sound like the only way they could reproduce was to get sperm from dead males. Is that so? Or could they reproduce conventionally as well? (By the way, you may have the dubious honor of adding a sperm article to the Wook, to go with breast as one of our most-read articles!)
    • Fixed, but I think I'll leave the sperm article for now since technically I'm allowed a redlink in the body :P I don't feel like starting up that controversy for now. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:38, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
  • Be sure to mention that they had two sexes in the Biology and appearance.
  • I think you can go into a bit more detail about their anatomy in Biology and appearance. For instance, their eyes are bulbous, featureless discs at the front of the head, the maw is surrounded by a patch of bumpy skin of a different shade from the rest of the hide, their limbs are relatively thin in comparison to the body, and their head meets the forelimbs in piles of wrinkles.
    • Added the details you mentioned. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:38, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
  • Currently, you use both ghest and ghests as the plural. Which one is correct?
  • Can we say by what point Kalon Lenitor was considered legendary? Like, is he alive and well in Alliance Intelligent Reports, meaning we can date him to that book's time period?
    • His daughter is detailed in the book but he's just mentioned in her entry. I could add that his daughter was alive during the Galactic Civil War but it doesn't seem that relevant. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:38, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
  • You should probably note in BTS that the ghest was actually illustrated first and then given a back story, since Creatures of the Galaxy was designed such that the artists had free reign and then the writers came in. ~SavageBOB sig 13:41, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
    • Added. Thanks for the review! Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:38, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
Manoof
  • Is it mentioned specifically that they eat large herbivores?
  • "Female ghests generally foght harder than males, and if a female killed her partner, she could still extract his sperm and reproduce, but if the female died, no reproduction could take place." Can this be reworded or split into two sentences, seems too long.
  • There seems to be a few spelling errors that might not be picked up by spellcheck as they spell different words - guest instead of ghest, ten instead of then for example. I fixed those but you may want to double check the rest of the article, though i didn't notice any others. Manoof (talk) 13:24, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
    • Thanks for getting those! I can't see anything else either, but I'm sure other reviewers will pick up anything we missed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:23, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
El Jefe
  • "Originally believed to be responsible for carrying away the souls of the dead by the sentient Rodians also found on Rodia, who feared the predators due to the fact the that they sometimes attacked and ate entire primitive Rodian villages." Isn't really a sentence. There's no subject.
  • Do we have a year or time period when the Republic made contact with Rodia?
    • Not that I can find. They seem to appear first in the Old Republic period but they might of been found at any point before that. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:44, May 20, 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm thinking that the tidbit about the Rodians trying to save the ghests should go in History. The Ghests in the galaxy section can then talk about individual ghests.
  • " The ghest lived in a series of durasteel tunnels once used as an irrigation system for farmland, but abandoned after the city of Eror Zeen was built on the fields. The creature lived in the murky rainwater" Back-to-back "The ghest/creature lived in" sentences. Should be condensed into one.
  • You don't need to use {{CSWECite}} in the Sources section if it has its own entry. IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 02:22, May 19, 2014 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • The BTS is mostly just unsubstantial fluff that does nothing but regurgitate the Sources list. These sentences should just be removed, while sticking to the bare meat and potatoes of what needs to be expressed in this section: "The species was then mentioned in a number of other sourcebooks for the roleplaying game, starting with the Alliance Intelligence Reports in 1995." [...] "Later that year, the species was mentioned in Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game, Second Edition, Revised and Expanded, and in Gundark's Fantastic Technology: Personal Gear in 1997. They were mentioned in Rodia's entry in The Essential Guide to Planets and Moons, written by Daniel Wallace and released in 1998. After that, the ghest did not appear until 2009, when they received and entry in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:02, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
    • Cut down to just the first appearance and the roleplay choice stuff. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:22, June 1, 2014 (UTC)
  • As far as BTS material that is actually saying something, what does this mean, the creature existed first as an illustration? If the ghest was both pictured and mentioned within Creatures of the Galaxy, I don't understand how this makes sense: "The creature existed first as an illustration by Peter Venters; writer Chuck Truett then created the creature's backstory and designed rules allowing for the creatures to be used in the game." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:02, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
    • Basically I remember reading that the creatures were all drawn by the artists and then their descriptions were written based on the images. I can't double check that at the moment however since I still can't access my sources, but my laptop should be repaired by Wednesday latest so I'll fix it as soon as I can which should still be within the two week time limit for this objection. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:22, June 1, 2014 (UTC)
      • Ok got my sources back and checked in the book. I've reworded the bts to make it clearer and referenced it. Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:20, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
  • My next question was going to be the one I see you just asked to Cav below. I'm assuming the 8 ABY date needs a specific reference. Please check. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 06:27, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
  • You're missing information from the Shadows of the Empire Planets Guide, page 7. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:42, September 2, 2014 (UTC)
    • Added, didn't realise they were mentioned in the book. Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:01, September 3, 2014 (UTC)
      • I think you're also missing info from page 17. Although the article mentions ghests' involvement in Rodian drama, it could still mention that "Ghest" is a specific genre, as the text explains. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:40, September 3, 2014 (UTC)
        • Added, should the genre have its own page? Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:45, September 3, 2014 (UTC)
          • Nah, that can all be covered under the Rodian Theater article. And a little more from page 21. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:35, September 3, 2014 (UTC)
            • Noticed that before but wasn't sure if it was relevant. Added. Ayrehead02 (talk) 19:24, September 3, 2014 (UTC)
  • If you're going to use page numbers in all of your referencing, then please do so for all references for the sake of consistency. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:33, October 1, 2014 (UTC)
    • Done for the SOTE guide, but my copy of Essential reader's Guide has no page numbers and weird page order since it's an EPUB. Ayrehead02 (talk) 17:21, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
      • Then ask around and see if someone can provide you with a page number. ERC is a pretty commonly owned source. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:07, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
Cav
  • You need to rework they info on the Ghest on the planet Danoor (which you incorrectly stated was Daroon). You currently place the events in the rebel era, referring to the FarStar as a Rebel vessel. The FarStar is a New Republic ship, and the adventure is set in 8 ABY in the New Republic era. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 15:59, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 20:54, October 5, 2014 (UTC)