- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a featured article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Duel on Cophrigin V
- Nominated by:—Tommy9281
(Talk) 21:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC) - Nomination comments: This duel was awesome. I've always liked the Dark Woman.
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Support
- Everything looks good.LtNOWIS 04:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
--Eyrezer 06:42, 29 August 2009 (UTC)- It's good.--Jedi Kasra (talk) 14:45, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
CC7567 (talk) 03:16, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:08, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
— Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 14:28, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
Chack Jadson (Talk) 01:10, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
Object
You need to comment in the Bts about its transition from Infinities to canon. --Eyrezer 06:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)- Addressed via IRC.—Tommy9281
(Talk) 06:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed via IRC.—Tommy9281
- QGJ
What source establishes this as the final event of the Great Jedi Purge? To my knowledge, it is not stated in the comic.- It is not explicitly stated in the comic. Palpatine, Vader, and An'ya Kuro allude several times to this being the end of the Jedi Purge. And the comic is called "Extinction".—Tommy9281
(No truth in me) 12:53, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Allusion is not enough to assume this kind of thing, IMO. True, Palpatine's and Vader's words establish it as one of the final events of the Purge, but there is still not enough evidence that it was the final event. And I don't think we can use comic titles for reference; Star Wars: Empire's End wasn't really the end of the Empire, was it? QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 19:26, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- No, Star Wars: Empire's End wasn't the end of the Empire per se, but it was the end of Palpatine, and the Empire as it was known under him.—Tommy9281
(No truth in me) 21:07, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, maybe this wasn't a very good example. Anyway, I still think it is too much of an assumption to call this duel the end of the Purge until some source explicitly says that it was. I mean, how come we know that Vader didn't kill another Jedi right after Kuro? For example, it is not known if the Battle of Shumari took place before or after the duel on Cophrigin V. And if it happened after, maybe Shumari was considered to be the final event of the Purge. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 09:39, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed.
- Ok, maybe this wasn't a very good example. Anyway, I still think it is too much of an assumption to call this duel the end of the Purge until some source explicitly says that it was. I mean, how come we know that Vader didn't kill another Jedi right after Kuro? For example, it is not known if the Battle of Shumari took place before or after the duel on Cophrigin V. And if it happened after, maybe Shumari was considered to be the final event of the Purge. QuiGonJinn
- No, Star Wars: Empire's End wasn't the end of the Empire per se, but it was the end of Palpatine, and the Empire as it was known under him.—Tommy9281
- Allusion is not enough to assume this kind of thing, IMO. True, Palpatine's and Vader's words establish it as one of the final events of the Purge, but there is still not enough evidence that it was the final event. And I don't think we can use comic titles for reference; Star Wars: Empire's End wasn't really the end of the Empire, was it? QuiGonJinn
- It is not explicitly stated in the comic. Palpatine, Vader, and An'ya Kuro allude several times to this being the end of the Jedi Purge. And the comic is called "Extinction".—Tommy9281
Was it ever referred to as the "Duel on Cophrigin V"? If not, it needs the Conjecture tag.QuiGonJinn(Talk) 17:54, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Why would it need a conjecture tag? It's not like i called it "Hapydance on Cophrigin V", or "Epic Confrontation on Cophrigin V". It is a "duel" that occurred on "Cophrigin V", and common sense has it named for what it is. Though, if it is ultimately decided that one is needed, I have no problem with that.—Tommy9281
(No truth in me) 12:28, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- It would certainly be the most logical assumption to call it a duel. However, we do not know what name future sources may come up with. It may indeed be called "Duel on Cophrigin V", but it could also be "Confrontation on Cophrigin V", "Showdown on Cophrigin V", etc. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 19:26, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Well, if and when future sources name the "Duel on Cophrigin V" as something other than that, we can change it. Unless a more substantial reason to add a conjecture tag can be provided, I believe the current title is sufficient.—Tommy9281
(No truth in me) 21:07, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- If it's not referred to by that name in the comic then it is a conjectural title (because it's one we've come up with ourselves, even if it follows canon precedent and makes sense and would be the likely name for it were one ever given to us in canon) - if it is referred to by that name then it's not a conjectural title. I've added the tag accordingly, obviously if it's ever given that canon name it can be removed or whatever. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 23:27, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Well, if and when future sources name the "Duel on Cophrigin V" as something other than that, we can change it. Unless a more substantial reason to add a conjecture tag can be provided, I believe the current title is sufficient.—Tommy9281
- It would certainly be the most logical assumption to call it a duel. However, we do not know what name future sources may come up with. It may indeed be called "Duel on Cophrigin V", but it could also be "Confrontation on Cophrigin V", "Showdown on Cophrigin V", etc. QuiGonJinn
- Why would it need a conjecture tag? It's not like i called it "Hapydance on Cophrigin V", or "Epic Confrontation on Cophrigin V". It is a "duel" that occurred on "Cophrigin V", and common sense has it named for what it is. Though, if it is ultimately decided that one is needed, I have no problem with that.—Tommy9281
Comments
No sources.- I don't think you can source the date of this duel to Extinction. The comic itself provides no date, the story could just as well be set in 0 BBY. I checked several secondary sources after my last reading of the comic, but couldn't verify an exact date. TNEGTC places it "shortly before the battle of Yavin", so 1-0 BBY may be more appropriate. --Borsk Fey'lya Talk 18:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed. Thank you for that bit of information.—Tommy9281
(Talk) 21:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- Addressed. Thank you for that bit of information.—Tommy9281
- Tommy, please note that the objective of linking is to provide the reader with easy access to all relevant articles but not to link every single word at the earliest possible spot. It's not always aesthetically pleasing to have perhaps five or more links in one sentence. This doesn't fall under a requirement and is not an official objection, but please take heed of this, as it spreads the links out more throughout articles and lessens the stress on linking that the reader might perceive. CC7567 (talk) 03:16, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 01:10, November 26, 2009 (UTC)