Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Declaration of the Rebel Alliance

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Declaration of the Rebel Alliance

  • Nominated by: Vitus InfinitusTalk 05:59, January 6, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:The call to action for the alliance of the various rebel cells. The formation of the Alliance to Restore the Republic. Created the article, but decided that this is probably one of the most noteworthy events in Canon, so I decided to flesh it out and try to make it a featured article.

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Support

  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 16:51, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Object

QGJ
  • Context on the Ghost and Dantooine.
  • A little clarification on Cantham house meetings and the Ghorman Massacre. What exactly happened there?
  • The paragraph in "Relentless pursuit" can be split into two.
  • I have added a link to the Legends counterpart of this event, the Corellian Treaty. In the Bts, you can briefly discuss it. Something along the lines of "In the Legends continuity, the founding document of the Rebel Alliance was called the Corellian Treaty. It was first mentioned in yada yada yada..." QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 18:43, March 15, 2018 (UTC)
Ecks Dee
  • This is kind of an unprecedented type of article you've chosen to nominate, but I have some suggestions for the layout: One history section which contains Background, An alliance formed (probably rename this to The Declaration), and Legacy (and appropriately divide each section into subsections, of course). Alternatively you could go with the classical event/conflict layout: Prelude, The Declaration, Aftermath. I recommend moving the excerpt to after the Aftermath/Legacy section and renaming it to "Full text". You'll probably want to include |copyright=true in the excerpt template as that's a verbatim quote from copyrighted material.
    • Added |copyright=true to the template, and restructured the layout--Vitus InfinitusTalk 21:37, April 8, 2018 (UTC)
      • You should probably create a separate section, "Full text", and put it after the Aftermath or something. 1358 (Talk) 21:04, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
  • Please check your image caption punctuation. Full sentences get full stops, otherwise no full stops.
  • References go after punctuation.
  • Check your Encyclopedia citation templates. Right now only one out of three instances works properly in terms of the backup link simply because you have the entries' names wrong. Mon Mothma's entry is ...characters/mon-mothma (hyphenated) whereas Bail Organa's entry is ...characters/bailorgana/ (no hyphen). Please also pass archivedate= to each template even though the lack thereof doesn't put the article in Category:Pages with missing permanent archival links.
  • Are there really no applicable quotes for the quoteless body sections? I'm sure you can find something.
  • Image caption linking: Please be consistent—either you link all applicable subjects or then you don't link anything. I recommend the latter. Right now Coruscant is linked in the Legacy section but the prose itself lacks a link even though it can and should be linked there.
  • Citation marks (" ") go outside punctuation, even if you have a compound subject within quotes.
  • What's the reasoning for the non-ascending order of references here? "several of which belonged to the Delegation of 2,000.[8][6]"
  • Right now the intro has absolutely no information about the aftermath of the event, instead focusing on listing ship models to show up.
  • References should be linked as if they were their own articles. All applicable links, that is.
  • More to come. 1358 (Talk) 23:27, March 25, 2018 (UTC)
  • The declaration is mentioned in Mon Monthma's DB entry and I suspect there might be a mention in other entries as well. Please check. 1358 (Talk) 21:04, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
Declaration of Imperators
  • Detailed referencing for the conc and next fields, please. Imperators II(Talk) 19:49, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
    • Added--Vitus InfinitusTalk 15:43, May 23, 2018 (UTC)
      • Since you're already writing manual reference notes, there's no need for the double references.
  • Proper referencing of the information in the first sentence of BTS along with proper formatting of the episode title, please. Imperators II(Talk) 19:49, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
    • How is it now?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 15:43, May 23, 2018 (UTC)
      • What I meant is that neither the release date (and I'd like to see the full date here), nor the season and episode number can be sourced to the episode itself. Imperators II(Talk) 11:16, May 27, 2018 (UTC)
        • Done--Vitus InfinitusTalk 04:57, May 28, 2018 (UTC)
          • Please get a more reliable source for the release date than IMDb. Take a look at some of our more recent Rebels status articles if you have to. Also a bit of context for Rebels, please. Imperators II(Talk) 17:53, May 31, 2018 (UTC)
            • Can I source it to the episode itself? I've seen a lot of that in other articles and have been permitted to do so in my other nominations and status articles. The only source I've found is from a tv listings site which all the web archiving sites I've tried can't save.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 14:15, June 19, 2018 (UTC)
              • No, you absolutely cannot. The episodes simply do not provide such information. Please show on which of your nominations you were encouraged to do this, since that's really not how we're doing it. And did you follow my advice on looking up how the episode release date sourcing is done on our recent Rebels status articles? Take a look at Killun 71, for example. The TV.com archival link for "Secret Cargo" is working just fine. Imperators II(Talk) 16:29, June 20, 2018 (UTC)
                • The only instances I referenced to the source itself were for books, not TV episodes, so that's why I asked because I thought the same applied. Most of the Rebels articles I checked did not have the type of referencing I needed for this article, but I don't recall taking a look at Killun 71. It's done now.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 16:53, June 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • In the Legends BTS sentence, please identify Legends as a continuity and give context and release year for TFU. Imperators II(Talk) 19:49, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
    • Added--Vitus InfinitusTalk 15:43, May 23, 2018 (UTC)
      • You should mention the Legends counterpart's first mention and first appearance, which is the TFU novel, not the game. Imperators II(Talk) 11:16, May 27, 2018 (UTC)
        • Fixed--Vitus InfinitusTalk 04:57, May 28, 2018 (UTC)
          • What about the Legends first mention, though? Imperators II(Talk) 17:53, May 31, 2018 (UTC)
            • Forgot about it, added--Vitus InfinitusTalk 14:15, June 19, 2018 (UTC)
              • It was not first mentioned in Dark Force Rising. Even our article for the treaty tells you otherwise. Imperators II(Talk) 16:29, June 20, 2018 (UTC)
                • Sorry, got mixed up because I saw that it was first mentioned in DFR in the appearances list, and didn't see the list of sources nor what was said in BTS. It's done now.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 16:53, June 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • Please format the affiliations involved field with bulleted list. Imperators II(Talk) 19:49, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • Please modernize the date ref. Detailed sourcing, no relying on the SH thread, BBY dates, strict no-earlier-than and no-later-than boundaries, and so on. Imperators II(Talk) 19:49, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • Please see what you can do about splitting paragraphs in the intro and body into shorter ones. Imperators II(Talk) 19:49, May 22, 2018 (UTC)
  • Same objection as on the Pelta nom regarding specifying which media from Rebels place the specific episodes in the given order. Imperators II(Talk) 16:29, June 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • You're sourcing 5 BBY to a Rebels episode. Imperators II(Talk) 16:29, June 20, 2018 (UTC)
Lewisr
  • Star Wars: On the Front Lines dates this to 2 years before the Battle of Yavin, it says 'Mon Mothma leaves the Senate and publicly denounces the Empire, calling for an alliance to stand against it'. Not sure if it could directly be sourced to the book but you can at the least write a note --Lewisr (talk) 23:07, June 17, 2018 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the find Lewis. Can you post what it says about the timing?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 14:15, June 19, 2018 (UTC)
      • It says 2 years before the Battle of Yavin --Lewisr (talk) 14:24, June 19, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

  • You've done some good work on this article, but this page already exists at Declaration of Rebellion. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:58, January 6, 2018 (UTC)
  • I thought Featured nominations had 4 weeks to had objections addressed?--Vitus InfinitusTalk 12:52, April 29, 2018 (UTC)
  • I will be on vacation and thus unavailable between May 31st to June 18th. I will not be able to address objections during that time as I will have no effective means of doing so. I will be taking care of all raised objections between now to the 31st, thank you for understanding.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 13:48, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
  • I will be removing this nomination per nominator request. 1358 (Talk) 20:03, July 22, 2018 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

Inqvote Unaddressed objections more than two weeks old. Imperators II(Talk) 07:15, April 29, 2018 (UTC)
  1. Inqvote There is no shame in having a nomination removed, but let me say this: having three FANs and three GANs at the same time is challenging even for the seasoned status article writer, let alone for the first-timer. I would advise you avoid nominating more things until something actually passes. 1358 (Talk) 10:41, April 29, 2018 (UTC)