Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Dathka Graush

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Dathka Graush

Nominated by: —Tommy ⁹²⁸¹ & Obi–wan Jacobi ^(Talk) 19:31, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

"This is my apprentice, Obi-Wan Jacobi. He will find your lost ship."

―Tommy9281, to the Inquisitorius^[src]

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Support

Provided that the quote is formatted properly. — Fiolli; 00:43, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
Excellent. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:27, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 01:07, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
CC7567 ^(talk) 06:01, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
1358 ^(Talk) 21:09, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Object

The Dolphin

The main quote is way too confusing in the way it is formatted—for example, when you translate the ancient Sith, you could probably use the same marks as in other translated quotes, with

«The quote here»

―Speaker
.--ID-21 Dolphin ^(Talk) 16:20, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

That won't work as far as I know because it would then require the whole quote to be subject to {{Quotetrans}}, which doesn't apply to the entire quote. Can you specify other instances of confusion please, as we've worded it exactly as it is in the text and have had no problem ourselves understanding what has transpired. Thank you,—Tommy ⁹²⁸¹ 11:48, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
- I could modify the current quote template so that there would be no quotation mark at the end if a parameter is given. That way, you could manually add the » signs to enclose the translated text. Would that fix the problem? 1358 ^(Talk) 14:08, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
  - We have on other occasions simply not used the template and manually put in the code. This was mostly done before when there were not enough lines in a dialogue template to accommodate the number of speakers and their lines. I've modified it to fit without using the template, and I strongly suggest that we do not change it unless the quote template can have something accommodate the usage of the proper symbols. — Fiolli; 00:43, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
    - As a matter of fact, I actually added a parameter that can be used to omit the end quotation mark back in November. Thus, I've gone ahead and changed the HTML/wiki markup based quote to use the {{Quote}} template. As far as I can see, it looks identical to your version, Fiolli, so I can't see a reason not to use the template based form. However, feel free to revert me. Cheers. 1358 ^(Talk) 18:59, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
      - The transition works, but some of the extra information in brackets is still unnecessary and detracts from the message of the quote.--ID-21 Dolphin ^(Talk) 22:45, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
        Unnecessary? I disagree. I guarantee you'd be less able to understand what transpires without the bracketed text.—Tommy ⁹²⁸¹ 22:56, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Toprawa

~~I think something does need to be tweaked with the quote. The double "" at the beginning isn't necessary.~~ Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:20, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Fixed the "" bit. Could you please be more specific about what needs to be "tweaked"? Cheers. —Obi–wan Jacobi ^(Talk) 03:55, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
  - That was what needed to be tweaked. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:17, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
    - Awesome, thank you. :)
~~The article alternates between capitalizing mentions of "the Valley" and "the valley" in reference to Golg. Please standardize whichever one is correct.~~
- Addressed. All changed to the "Valley", unless I missed some.
~~I'd like to see the biography give a more exact time frame reference for Cronal's involvement in the story. The intro, for example, cites sometime after the Battle of Endor.~~
- After further research we found that the most specific date mentioned of Cronal's expedition is between 0 and 4 ABY, instead of after 4 ABY. The information has since been added to both the Intro and the Biography.
Not an objection, but I've decapitalized mentions of "Overlord" per our LG guidelines for rank capitalization. If there is a specific reason why that needs to be capitalized, please let me know. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:17, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Fine by me. It is mentioned as "overlord" in Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties anyway. :) Thanks. —Obi–wan Jacobi ^(Talk) 10:33, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Attack of the Clone

This is very nit-picky, but for this ref, the placement seems to imply that Graush is mentioned in Evil Never Dies itself, as the ref is the closest one to the "Graush's." If that's the case, Evil Never Dies should be listed as a source, but if not, then the placement of the ref (and the ones around it) should be reviewed.
- OK, we've altered the refs to eliminate any confusion. Hopefully it does the job. Thanks.
Great work otherwise. CC7567 ^(talk) 06:01, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you! —Obi–wan Jacobi ^(Talk) 23:51, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 21:09, February 4, 2011 (UTC)