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Cornelius Evazan
- Nominated by: AV-6R7User talk:AV-6R7 04:37, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: With all the previous objections taken care of and other aditions, the page exceeded 1,000 words. Thus, I am running this for FA status.
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Support
- Cevan
(talk) 20:18, November 1, 2015 (UTC)
- Nivlacanator(talk) 00:15, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
- Cwedin(talk) 04:12, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
- Squishy Vic talk 18:44, December 19, 2015 (UTC)
- Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:08, April 9, 2016 (UTC)
AnilSerifoglu (talk) 02:44, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
IFYLOFD (Talk) 00:41, November 2, 2016 (UTC)
Article looks great. Better late than never. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:24, September 13, 2017 (UTC)
Supreme Emperor (talk) 02:00, September 14, 2017 (UTC)
Object
Jang
I'll post this here instead of the KB, but in the Annotated Screenplays, on page 44, he's called a "Human." Lucas doesn't give him any other description, but he's later described as "unpleasant" when Obi-Wan intervenes. JangFett (Talk) 06:07, November 10, 2015 (UTC)- Revised Fourth Edition, I assume? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 06:14, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- This will be an interesting case because most screenplay drafts, with complied edits and changes, are marked with the same date, even outside Star Wars. Unless we can track down and find all of the edited fourth draft screenplays, including the revised ones, it'll be tough to precisely determine the title. The Annotated Screenplays doesn't actually say where "Human" is from, unfortunately. Both it and this script dated January 15, 1976, both use "Human." Using the data I've collected from the Screenplays (listed in your KB), both "Human" and "Int. Death Star corridor" are used in the website, so it's safe to say Revised, although I'm not sure of the date. On another similar note: I'm not sure where "grubby" came from, if you want to keep that. JangFett (Talk) 06:25, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Intresting. I've done as you've requested and did a little clean up in that area. The descriptor "short, grubby Human" is given in the script you've posted a link to, so do you think that would be OK to use? Also, I'm thinking of replacing the Bts quote with a sentence from the original novelization. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 06:35, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Re: "grubby"—Ah, cool, I've missed that. Yes, it's safe to use. Source it to the website. But since we can't pinpoint the dates (I wouldn't trust what the website says in this case), a ref note needs to be used instead of a direct ref to Annotated Screenplays. It doesn't need to be complex, just one indicating the inaccurate dating. Using the website and what the Screenplays says, you can assume that they're both in one of the Revised Fourth Drafts. As for the quote, that would work better, since you're using Legends information. JangFett (Talk) 06:43, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- I've put up a quote from the novelization. Just to clarify, the above description is used in the draft included in the Annotated Screenplays and I need to source the online script? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:15, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Try this: The ref note should go after "In the Revised Fourth Edition script for A New Hope," and then you can source "grubby" and "unpleasant Human" to the website, since they're both present there. JangFett (Talk) 14:24, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, cool, but how would you word the ref note. I've never written one before, so an example that could be used in the article would be appreciated. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:33, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Something along the lines of: "Several revised fourth drafts were released from mid-1976 to 1977, per the Screenplays, but the actual content of these scripts are unknown. A copy of a revised fourth draft shows identical descriptors present in Screenplays, but the date is incorrect. Therefore, this article assumes that only the identical descriptors are correct. JangFett (Talk) 14:48, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, cool, but how would you word the ref note. I've never written one before, so an example that could be used in the article would be appreciated. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:33, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Try this: The ref note should go after "In the Revised Fourth Edition script for A New Hope," and then you can source "grubby" and "unpleasant Human" to the website, since they're both present there. JangFett (Talk) 14:24, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- I've put up a quote from the novelization. Just to clarify, the above description is used in the draft included in the Annotated Screenplays and I need to source the online script? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:15, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Re: "grubby"—Ah, cool, I've missed that. Yes, it's safe to use. Source it to the website. But since we can't pinpoint the dates (I wouldn't trust what the website says in this case), a ref note needs to be used instead of a direct ref to Annotated Screenplays. It doesn't need to be complex, just one indicating the inaccurate dating. Using the website and what the Screenplays says, you can assume that they're both in one of the Revised Fourth Drafts. As for the quote, that would work better, since you're using Legends information. JangFett (Talk) 06:43, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Intresting. I've done as you've requested and did a little clean up in that area. The descriptor "short, grubby Human" is given in the script you've posted a link to, so do you think that would be OK to use? Also, I'm thinking of replacing the Bts quote with a sentence from the original novelization. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 06:35, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- This will be an interesting case because most screenplay drafts, with complied edits and changes, are marked with the same date, even outside Star Wars. Unless we can track down and find all of the edited fourth draft screenplays, including the revised ones, it'll be tough to precisely determine the title. The Annotated Screenplays doesn't actually say where "Human" is from, unfortunately. Both it and this script dated January 15, 1976, both use "Human." Using the data I've collected from the Screenplays (listed in your KB), both "Human" and "Int. Death Star corridor" are used in the website, so it's safe to say Revised, although I'm not sure of the date. On another similar note: I'm not sure where "grubby" came from, if you want to keep that. JangFett (Talk) 06:25, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Revised Fourth Edition, I assume? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 06:14, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
Floyd
Posting this first because it might take the article under 1000 words, but I think the intro could be condensed a bit, especially the section about the cantina incident. Right now it's a little out of proportion with the Bio.IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:00, September 27, 2016 (UTC)"they became wanted men, and by then Evazan had been sentenced to death in twelve star systems." By when?IFYLOFD (Talk) 04:02, November 1, 2016 (UTC)
SE
Is there any info about the bounty hunter that left him disfigured? If so an article for him might be in orderSupreme Emperor (talk) 03:07, May 7, 2017 (UTC)
Toprawa
I'm going to cite the External links section of the LG with regards to what I see as an overpopulated External links in this article. Please see the bullet point speaking to only listing SW.com blog posts of critical relevance, and remove any trivial and unnecessary links listed here; prime examples seem to be "Every Limb Lost in the Star Wars Films," "5 of the Best Star Wars Bar Buddies," etc.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:49, August 28, 2017 (UTC)- Kept the original teaser trailer (which he was featured in), the soundboard, the SWC reels, and the R1 Bts video. Everything else was regurgitating old info or more relevant to the Legends article. -
AV-6R7Crew Pit 01:09, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
- Much better. I would say the SW.com ANH parent page listed in the Sources list definitely belongs in the External links, if you even really need to list that at all, considering it's just a PO. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:16, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
- Kept the original teaser trailer (which he was featured in), the soundboard, the SWC reels, and the R1 Bts video. Everything else was regurgitating old info or more relevant to the Legends article. -
Please implement the link field for the Kabe Card Trader reference.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:53, September 11, 2017 (UTC)- How would you recommend I title it on the archive Wiki? -
AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:58, September 11, 2017 (UTC)
- What is the name of the card? By the way, if you come on IRC we can discuss this stuff more efficiently. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:19, September 11, 2017 (UTC)
- How would you recommend I title it on the archive Wiki? -
In the cantina Bio section, the Twitter reference cannot be used to cite that entire sentence clause. Please revise the referencing as appropriate: "Evazan and Baba departed the city prior to its destruction by the the Galactic Empire's Death Star battlestation..."Can we say who considered him to be a promising surgeon? Or does the source even put it into those words? Can we not just say he "was a promising surgeon"? "...Cornelius Evazan was considered to be a promising surgeon..."Do we know who voiced Roofoo in the radio drama?For the BTS image of Alfie Curtis, you should crop out the border.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 06:55, September 13, 2017 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 02:45, September 14, 2017 (UTC)
Didn't want to add this as an objection as I have no idea if there's more information available on Cornelius from Star Wars: Complete Locations, maybe worth asking User:LelalMekha if you don't have a copy as I imagine he would be happy to help you out --Lewisr (talk) 19:06, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
- Nothing new. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 04:20, October 10, 2016 (UTC)
- Wow, wasn't expecting that! See the Decraniated. Nivlacanator(talk) 08:52, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
- I'll try to pick up a copy today so I can update the article accordingly. Is it not Roofoo? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:37, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
- Picked up my copy; can we have a round of applause for Pablo for making Evazan even more creepy then he already was? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:51, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
- I know. Uhhhh, nasty. Now I understand how he got the death sentence in twelve systems. Nivlacanator(talk) 20:09, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
- Picked up my copy; can we have a round of applause for Pablo for making Evazan even more creepy then he already was? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 19:51, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
- I'll try to pick up a copy today so I can update the article accordingly. Is it not Roofoo? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 14:37, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
- Wow, wasn't expecting that! See the Decraniated. Nivlacanator(talk) 08:52, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
- This Tweet could help clarify a sentence or two. Nivlacanator(talk) 04:23, December 21, 2016 (UTC)
- The link doesn't seem to work. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 04:26, December 21, 2016 (UTC)
- I realized that too late. Should work now.
This Tweet (@GaryWhitta) on Twitter (post) (backup link not verified!) :| Nivlacanator(talk) 04:30, December 21, 2016 (UTC)
- I realized that too late. Should work now.
- The link doesn't seem to work. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 04:26, December 21, 2016 (UTC)