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Contents

  • 1 CT-7567
    • 1.1 (3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 Lee's charge
        • 1.1.2.2 Fan of the Core
        • 1.1.2.3 Hanzo
        • 1.1.2.4 Manoof
        • 1.1.2.5 Toprawa
      • 1.1.3 Comments

CT-7567

  • Nominated by: CC7567 (talk) 21:48, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Since this project is five years in the making, I felt it needed a preface, so please pardon the ramble. To put it simply, I believe this article's construction symbolizes the Wookieepedia community. There are many people who contributed to it (and still will), whether it was by providing images and audio files, hunting down obscure sources, or letting me bounce ideas off them. The article will never be perfect, nor will it ever be the site’s longest Featured article, but I hope it does justice to the character himself, who I think is one of the best that Star Wars has to offer—even after the Great EU Purge, because he's a strong character in every one of his appearances. Whether you've already contributed or will do so by lending your time and effort to reviewing the article, thank you for doing your part to make it what it is. So, in honor of May the Fourth and on behalf of WP:TCW, here he is.

(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)

Support

I agree. This article clarifies a lot of information from clone captain CT-7567. I have searched for information in this article many times and all my doubts have been anwered (except of course those that do not cover appearances of Captain Rex.) —Unsigned comment by Generalfacu (talk • contribs) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: Less than 50 mainspace edits -- Cade Calrayn 23:02, May 13, 2014 (UTC))
  1. Coruscantfan (Talk) 02:42, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
  2. I about fainted when I saw this. Now get to work on the Canon article 'cause it looks gross! :P Awesome work ! Nivlacanator(talk) 06:28, April 29, 2015 (UTC)
  3. Emperor Jarjarkine MP-Mandalorian Senate Hall 14:42, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
  4. - AV-6R7 (talk) 22:18, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote This article kind of represents the culmination of all of CC's blood and sweat managing TCW for us over the years, and it's a deserving monument to such high praise. This is probably now our single best article in terms of writing and formatting quality, and research exhaustiveness. The Personality and traits section is simply perfect, and no long character article from this point forward should ever attempt to gain Featured status without following CC's model here. Just an outstanding job, CC. I'm proud to see you finally get this done. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:13, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote This is the best article on Wookieepedia. Thanks for this, CC. IFYLOFD (Talk) 03:59, December 15, 2015 (UTC)
  7. Inqvote Great work, CC.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 05:23, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Object

Lee's charge
  • A number and a name: Is there a link for the engagement you describe in the last sentence? Clone Commander Lee Talk 10:30, May 10, 2014 (UTC)
    • Added. CC7567 (talk) 14:54, May 10, 2014 (UTC)
  • Battle of Teth: We have some kind of link for casevac team, however, as it currently refers only to one special case, I'll leave it up to you to decide about its inclusion.
    • Since "casevac" isn't a Star Wars–specific term, I don't see a need to link to it. Personally I also question whether the casevac team article itself is needed on the site, but that's another matter.
      • Interesting, maybe I'll tc it. Clone Commander Lee Talk 13:16, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • Battle of Teth: We have a problem with the remaining clone troopers of Torrent Company. I believe I talked with you about this years ago, but we don't know if CT-9932 is Coric, Del, Attie, Nax, Zeer or just another clone. Currently you say that five (including Coric) survived, but in the next paragraph you mention Coric, Nax, Zeer, CT-9932, Del and Attie as survivors—which are six. My theory is that there are five survivors, but while Rex checked them over comlink, one of the clones answered with his serial number instead of "I'm here" or something like that which is said in the novel. However, this is speculation. It's nitpicky, but a delicate situation. Thoughts? Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:01, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
    • The jump from six to five troopers (both times excluding Rex) is a discrepancy within the novel. When the troopers are about to report in, Rex states that according to the biosign icons in his HUD, "five of his men were still alive." However, when they individually report in via comlink, there are six, with only Coric and CT-9932 identifying themselves by name (so 9932 definitely isn't Coric). Then, for the rest of the sequence, it's back to five (Coric, Zeer, Nax, Attie, Del). Assuming that the six troopers checking in is an error, I think it's safe to assume that CT-9932 is either Zeer, Nax, Attie, or Del, so I'm removing any references to him, which should solve the problem. CC7567 (talk) 13:41, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Shipyards of Gwori: Nitpicky, but However, the battle droids overseeing the blockade detected the multitude of life forms aboard the stolen frigate and activated the radiation beam.: Wasn't that Juhm who ordered it out of frustration of his slaves escaping?
    • It was both; changed.
  • Outpost inspections: and Rex ordered them to take off their sunbonnets to verify that they were clones: Isn't "sunbonnets" rather colloquial?Clone Commander Lee Talk 21:27, May 17, 2014 (UTC)
    • Adjusted. CC7567 (talk) 18:37, May 17, 2014 (UTC)
  • JanFathal: After Pellaeon, an old acquaintance of his, permitted him to join Leveler's testing session, Rex departed to join the cruise with Tano, Sergeant Coric: Could you vary your use of "join" here?
  • Further campaigns: the blaster cannons, Tano threw a blaster battery at the cannons with the Force, and Rex detonated the explosive by shooting the flying target, annihilating the cannons: Same here with cannons. Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:25, May 18, 2014 (UTC)
    • Both adjusted. CC7567 (talk) 03:11, May 20, 2014 (UTC)
  • Quell to Maridun: Just as Bly was docking their frigate to the Resolute, a Vulture droid attack inadvertently activated the frigate's hyperdrive: Wasn't that a duo of clone pilots?
    • Bly was at the controls, accompanied by a clone co-pilot. We have articles on the two pilots before Bly replaced one of them, but since there isn't enough info to distinguish them, I've opted not to link them within the article. CC7567 (talk) 20:25, May 21, 2014 (UTC)
  • Orto Plutonia: that they were only there for his protection, not to fight his crusade against the Talz, the captain and his troops were forced into battle when more Talz appeared and ambushed them. After a Talz warrior and his narglatch forced him out of his Freeco swoop: Could you vary your use of Talz here, e.g. replace one with inhabitants? Clone Commander Lee Talk 13:29, May 21, 2014 (UTC)
    • I don't see a need to change it; three uses in two sentences aren't an extreme overuse of the word. CC7567 (talk) 20:25, May 21, 2014 (UTC)
      • I took the liberty of making a slight change here. If it annoys you, feel free to revert it. Clone Commander Lee Talk 20:30, May 21, 2014 (UTC)
  • Blue Shadow Virus: Amidala reported that she and Binks had retrieved the missing bomb from LEP-86C8 in the arboretum, Tano and Rex quickly brought the bomb squad to deactivate the bomb.: Would you be so kind the replace one bomb with "explosive e.g.? Clone Commander Lee Talk 13:52, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
    • Changed. CC7567 (talk) 18:53, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
Fan of the Core
  • Not so much an objection as an inquiry, under Battle of Teth I'm assuming you're using "casevac" as written in The Clone Wars novel? I know Traviss has a love affair with using military jargon without explaining it, but the average reader may not be aware it stands for "causality evacuation". It may be appropriate to either create an article for that term or simply spell it out. I believe it's also supposed to be all capitalized as a military abbreviation, not sure if she did in the novel or not, I only have a cheap txt copy so forgive me. :)
    • My apologies, I just saw this was already addressed. Coruscantfan (Talk) 20:38, April 6, 2015 (UTC)
  • I noticed in a couple of places you placed an "s" after adding an apostrophe to a name including Ventress and Grievous, I don't believe that's correct but wanted to double check if that was intentional.
    • Based on personal preference, yes. All uses should be consistent.
      • Got it. Coruscantfan (Talk) 02:42, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
  • Excellent work, sir! Coruscantfan (Talk) 20:36, April 6, 2015 (UTC)
    • Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 02:36, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
Hanzo
  • Just a prelim: I see that the intro has not been updated with the Seizure of Scipio info.
    • There's no mandate that introductions need to include every single battle or event in which a character has been involved. The purpose of an intro is to provide readers with the most basic information on a character (or whatever subject the article covers), and I don't believe the events on Scipio meet that criteria for Rex. CC7567 (talk) 20:33, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nice work, highly ambitious to take on a TCW main character article. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:37, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
    • Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 20:33, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
Manoof
  • Preliminary objection: this page is in the category for pages with template parameter errors. I believe it was done in a recent edit. Please review the last few edits on this page and fix the template that has the problem. Manoof (talk) 05:38, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
    • Sorry, the specific subcategory is actually templates with unrecognized parameters Manoof (talk) 05:40, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
      • Fixed. CC7567 (talk) 02:40, August 8, 2015 (UTC)
  • Battle of christophsis—you need to make it clearer they are unaware of slick's identity when you identify him at the start, or reveal his identity later. Reading that it was one of slick's men after it was already identified that slick was the traitor is confusing. Manoof (talk) 06:14, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
    • The article already states that when Rex spotted Slick in the hallway, Slick was "too far away to be identified." That should be clear enough for any reader.
  • —"When Rex joined in, he received a blow to the head, and Slick knocked him to the floor and used the "groin popper" maneuver to dislocate his leg." Could you rewrite this without so many commas and "and"s? Perhaps something like "When Rex joined in, Slick knocked him to the floor with a blow to the head before using the "groin popper" maneuver to dislocate his leg." Manoof (talk) 06:14, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
    • The original sentence isn't a run-on, nor is it unnecessarily unwieldy in length, so I don't see a reason to reword it.
  • —You need to mention somewhere that the deflector shield is growing larger, or the edge of the shield is approaching the republic forces or something. You mention the shield being deployed (which could simply mean the equipment was being put into position) and a few other things, then all of a sudden the shield is passing over them. I'll continue with the battle of teth when I have more time (perhaps in a few hours). Manoof (talk) 06:14, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
    • Added. CC7567 (talk) 09:29, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
    • As an addendum, while I appreciate your willingness to review this article, there are plenty of other articles up for FA nomination that do not yet have the required user votes. I would strongly encourage you to redirect your time and energy to review those other FANs instead of this one, in order to prioritize those articles that are in more need of attention. Thanks! CC7567 (talk) 22:57, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
      • Just because the nomination has several votes, does not mean there are no issues with the article. However, you are right in that my efforts are better put to use on other nominations, so will discontinue this review. Manoof (talk) 07:26, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • In the Gwori section, the article talks about how the MagnaGuards protect Rex and Co. from spiders, as if this is some kind of major local threat or something, but it really doesn't go into context to explain what the significance of these spiders is. Can you add a little bit to explain this?
    • Added. CC7567 (talk) 08:51, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
  • Regarding the final paragraph of the "Further campaigns" subsection, I believe the game guide should be sufficient to allow us to say that Kenobi and Skywalker are the two Jedi involved in the Christophsis mining operation. If the guide says that, then that's perfectly canonical, and that's pretty much how we determine these kinds of video game issues. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:36, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
    • Adjusted. CC7567 (talk) 08:51, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
      • Further regarding that reference note, is there any particular reason you list the six possible Jedi choices in the order that you do? After Skywalker and Tano, it just seems kind of random. If there's no order there, I would perhaps recommend listing by alphabetical order. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:33, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
        • Alphabetized, as there's no significance to the current order. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • I find this sentence in the brain worms section sort of jarring, since the article never really goes into resolving this question. I would suggest either answer the question or just removing this sentence: "Skywalker evaded the other Jedi's inquiries as to how he had extracted the information from the so-far uncooperative Poggle."
    • Expanded slightly. CC7567 (talk) 08:51, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
  • Lead quote in the "Bloodshed and rescues" subsection. There should be a comma in the sentence "I'm getting you out of here Rex." Is this your omission?
    • Yeah, my mistake. I've added it. CC7567 (talk) 08:51, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
  • I was surprised by the lack of article before Indomitable here and wanted to check whether it's "Indomitable" or "the Indomitable": "...and Torrent Company joined him aboard Indomitable..."
    • The novel consistently refers to it as "Indomitable" without a "the," which the article should reflect where appropriate. CC7567 (talk) 08:51, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm also curious about the Citatel section's lead quote. Are you taking its punctuation from disc captions? Also, why the [sic]? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:50, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
    • The comma in the second-to-last sentence ("both our sides, and could tip") was my addition. If you're referring to the bracketed ellipsis, I added it to omit a portion of unnecessary dialogue. Also, I'm not sure why I added the [sic], so I removed it. CC7567 (talk) 08:51, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
      • Generally, I think it's best to have our quotes mirror official captions wherever possible, excepting obvious errors (the OT DVDs are terrible, for example). If the captions don't include that comma, I would remove it, if for no other reason. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:33, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
        • I went through the Blu-rays and adjusted all of the quotes to match the captions. In this case, the comma is actually there in the original captions, so I've left it there. (And yeah, I just rewatched the OT, and even the Blu-ray captions are pretty atrocious.) CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • In the "Against General Krell" section's lead quote, I would check on the Blu-ray's captioning for the "My orders are..." line to see how it formats that, because it doesn't seem like you really need the colon there, which I increasingly feel like you're overusing a bit overall.
    • Fixed. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see the first image caption in the Ahsoka-turns-traitor section give a bit more context on the significance of the "intercepted transmission" Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:09, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
    • Reworded slightly. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • I think the BTS explanation of his Jaig eyes and the mention of the original ESB concept drawings should mention the fact that the Jaig eyes were supposed to be part of Boba Fett's helmet. This is specifically relevant given the relationship between the Fetts and the clones.
    • Added. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • "...but it was later decided that such a move would not be appropriate for his character." Who decided this?
    • Checked the video commentary and it was Filoni (at least), so I've added that. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • Can we not use the citation specifics for Starships & Vehicles Collection 43?
    • Added. CC7567 (talk) 23:40, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • Can you elaborate on why exactly you're choosing to treat his alluded-to involvement in the Battle of Cato Neimoidia as an error? If there's nothing in Labyrinth of Evil that's specifically contradicting his involvement, I don't see why we should treat it as one.
    • The Fact File, where that bit originates, doesn't have the best reputation for avoiding errors. In addition, since TCW never depicted his role in the events leading into ROTS, I'd prefer to assume that his involvement in the battle is one of those errors, at least until a canon source better clarifies his role in the pre-ROTS events. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
      • Changed per our discussion. CC7567 (talk) 02:05, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
  • The article alternates between "space-walk" and "spacewalking." Is one correct according to sources?
    • Space-walking is used. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • This sentence should be updated/reworded to reflect their placement within the now overall non-canon Star Wars Legends: "The following details stories that have not been deemed canon due to their disregard for established continuity."
    • I reworded the sentence, but I'm not sure if it's clear, so please let me know if you have any better suggestions for wording. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
      • I just took out the double "continuity." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:30, August 23, 2015 (UTC)
  • Was there nothing else to say for this game? "Rex is also featured in the film's tie-in online game."
    • Added a bit more info. CC7567 (talk) 23:40, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • Is the quote punctuation yours from the "Cartoon Network online games" section?
    • I'm pretty sure that's the way the game formatted it, but I don't remember for sure, and there's no way to check since the game's no longer available. I'm going to add the missing comma in lieu of finding another way to access the game. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • Why are you italicizing the "Clone Wars Infinities" section title?
    • I've un-italicized it. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm not in agreement that the Clone Wars Head-to-Head book should be treated as non-canon, necessarily. I haven't read the TCW version, but I'm familiar with the Rebels version, and it includes specific event narration. I don't see why we shouldn't be incorporating this into canon events if it doesn't contradict anything. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:14, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
    • I've always treated the Head-to-Head books as containing canon material and information while pitting characters against each other in non-canon match-ups. As the article states, the TCW Head-to-Head pits Rex against a demolition droid at a Coruscant power generator, which mirrors the events of the bombing of the Coruscant power generator from "Heroes on Both Sides." While the match-up doesn't directly contradict other material, it's redundant to the episode's events. Another matchup, between Skywalker and Savage Opress, is framed like this: "What would happen if Savage was tasked to destroy Anakin, the brightest star in the Jedi Order?" Each match-up is a what-if scenario that doesn't necessarily create an actual canon event. CC7567 (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 05:23, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

  • For reference, this is the Legends version of the article. All canon material will be incorporated into that version once the tabs system is approved and implemented. CC7567 (talk) 21:48, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
  • "nor will it ever be the site’s longest Featured article" It may very well be the site's longest FA when this review finally finishes, given that Wedge is on probation and I have no interest in trying to fix that mess. :P
    Master JonathanCouncil Chambers
    00:24 UTC MonMay 26, 2014
  • As I've checked and seen the Twitter citations are all still online, please add images to them, per rules since established in the Layout Guide. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:02, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
    • All screenshots added. CC7567 (talk) 02:40, August 8, 2015 (UTC)