Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Blount/Legends

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Blount

  • Nominated by: Menkooroo 14:05, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: This guy is badass.

(4 Inqs/3 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. Hanzo Hasashi 14:41, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
  2. The original Star Wars stoner. ~SavageBOB sig 00:05, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 09:03, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Inqvote CC7567 (talk) 19:48, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
  5. —Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 03:16, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Inqvote -- Darth Culator (Talk) 22:23, January 15, 2012 (UTC)
  7. Inqvote --Eyrezer 06:09, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Object

Prepare to be savaged…
  • Between the first and second paragraphs of the lead, you mention that he was aboard the Falcon. Should the second mention be removed or reworded to indicate it was the same mission? Or, if it's two separate missions, perhaps indicate that?
    • I guess it was me trying to throw in as many mentions of Blount as possible to remind the reader that he was part of the battle's action until the end. But yeah, it does kinda seem like one too many. Final mention removed. I've slightly tweaked the mention in the first paragraph, too, so as to distinguish it from the mention in the second paragraph, which is me trying to get across the CSWE info that confirms he was serving aboard the ship in some capacity during the actual fighting. I wish we could say something like "he manned the quad guns," but that he served in a post is literally all we know.
  • I switched "known as" to "designated", since I think the idea here is there's a Tala Squadron to which these ships belong, no? Otherwise, all the Talas should be italicized as ship names, I think.
    • You're right. The CCG cards are about the ships, not the pilot designations. Italicized!
  • Should we perhaps indicate that he visited Cloud City at some unspecified point, per his CCG card? Tis all. Nice work. ~SavageBOB sig 13:04, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    • Yeah, actually, that does sound about right. If there were an illustration of Luke standing on Home One in a sourcebook, we'd totally count that as canon info. I guess "erroneously" was a little presumptuous on my part. :P Added, and BTS sentence removed. Thanks for the review. :) Menkooroo 15:09, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 06:09, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

  • I myself considered the above Cloud City objection, though I refrained, knowing that on Yodapedia, Sompeetalay also shared the same views of Blount on Cloud City, that Decipher showing him there doesn't necessarily mean he was canonically. I shall let Menkooroo decide what to do, though it does make sense that he was indeed on Cloud City if Decipher shows him there. Hanzo Hasashi 15:09, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    • Check out my hypothetical comparison above and see what you think. I think it's also worth noting that it doesn't present a contradiction or inconsistency of any kind. It could also be compared to that one snowspeeder pilot you CA'd that was determined to be a member of Rogue Squadron due to the background of his card. Menkooroo 15:13, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
    • Another point of comparison is the [[Unidentified Lamproid (Jabba's court)]], which also relied on Decipher Photoshop skillz. ~SavageBOB sig 15:26, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
      • True, I believe it is obvious that any different backgrounds presented by Decipher are to be fully canonical to said characters' backstories. AFAIK none actually present tricky situations of conflict with existing canon. Hanzo Hasashi 15:29, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • I wish we could say something like "he manned the quad guns," but that he served in a post is literally all we know. Why is that? He's in the deleted scenes on the Blu-Rays manning the guns, and as Leland Chee has said here when asked if deleted scenes are canon, "Yes, unless they conflict with something else seen in the films or if the reasoning behind deleting the scene keeps it from being continuity." jSarek 02:19, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
    • Interesting. I've just asked Leland about it on facebook. As that comment is five years old, hopefully we can get an indication of today's practice. I'll report back soon. Menkooroo 04:04, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
      • No word from Leland, but Hanzo pointed out to me that he amended his statement back in July to indicate that deleted scenes are "potentially, but not always" canon. I've added some bits to the BTS on Leland's thoughts. It doesn't seem like I can do any more without speculating as to just which deleted scenes from the Blu-Rays are considered canonical. Let me know if the changes are OK. Menkooroo 04:23, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
        • Grr. Pick a stance, Leland! :-p Your edits will have to do for the moment, I guess. Here's hoping, now that the scenes are on the Blu-ray, some source uses a screenshot in a canon way so we can stop dancing around the obvious in the article. jSarek 04:35, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
          • I completely agree. I was hoping that I would find such a screenshot or mention while doing research. Not sure why the CSWE didn't man up and say "gunner" rather than "crewmember." Here's the SH thread where Hanzo found the info, for reference purposes. Menkooroo 04:38, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
            • I talked to Toprawa, and he said those Blu-ray deleted scenes should be treated as canon, see here. Hanzo Hasashi 21:59, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
              • I disagree with the logic presented there. Besides which, I'd hesitate to call "The Lost Rebels" a full-fledged deleted scene. It's not a produced scene, but rather just nine minutes of rough footage. The quad gunner scenes have no sound or editing, and the other scenes feature lines being called out to actors to say. Calling it canonical would create loads of problems. With that in mind, I've added the words "rough, unedited" to the BTS. Menkooroo 22:53, January 9, 2012 (UTC)