Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War) (redux review)

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Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War) (redux review)

  • Redux comments: Sent to Redux per INQ Meeting 40. Major rewrite; full review required.
  • Date added: February 12, 2011
  • Changes since last review: diff

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Some starters
  • The article is quite long, so I actually think it could use some intro expansion.
  • It could use a link check too; from what I've seen it looks pretty sparse at the moment.
  • I would place the navigation template below the external links—while the LG says succession boxes should be above the notes and references (thus above the external links), it doesn't say anything about navigation templates as far as I see. What do you think?
  • Will give it a thorough review after these have been fixed. 1358 (Talk) 17:33, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Article requires confirmation for its name. The NEC does call it the "Battle of Borleias," but the article needs to somehow reflect that. CC7567 (talk) 23:25, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

  • There's no official source for calling it "Second Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War)" or even Second Battle of Borleias. Wookieepedia came up with that title to distinguish it from the first and second battles of Borleias in the GCW and the first battle for Borleias in the YVW. I'm not sure what you want here . . . we can move it to Battle of Borleias since it's canonically called that, but that'll mean fixing a whole bunch of disambiguation pages and redirects. If that's what you're looking for, let me know. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 03:59, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
    • Why don't you just move it to Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War), which reflects the actual canonical title? Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:30, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
      • Moved. The only page that linked to the original Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War) redirect was this page. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 03:10, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
        • The article has been moved, but so far that's all there's been to satisfy the objection—the naming throughout the article needs to be fixed too. CC7567 (talk) 07:37, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
          • Agreed and fixed. I didn't see this for awhile, sorry about the delay in addressing it. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 18:10, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
Grunny
  • Intro: "and additionally requisitioned additional military forces", I'd like to see additionally or additional changed given their close proximity.
  • New Republic capture of Borleias: "which had been used as a staging point for the assault on Coruscant by the Yuuzhan Vong and been granted to Domain Kraal." Since this is explained only two paragraphs above, does this need to be mentioned again?
  • New Republic capture of Borleias: "Having been driven from the galactic capital of Coruscant, elements of the New Republic's Fleet Group Three, without orders, attacked Borleias", "Knowing that refugees from Coruscant would head to Borleias, and wanting to take revenge on the Yuuzhan Vong, Fleet Group Three's leader, General Wedge Antilles, attacked the planet." I think these two sentences could be combined to reduce redundancy, as they appear to say the same basic fact (that Fleet Group Three attacked Borleias, just with slightly different context info). Thoughts?
  • I'll continue reading it in a few hours ad finish my review. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 05:32, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
  • Question: Since this edit removed a duplicate quote, are there any other suitable quotes for that section? grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 14:21, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Borleias
  • Since the battle takes up two entire novels, there really shouldn't be any quoteless sections. The BTS even has Allston's FAQ for fodder. Menkooroo (talk) 03:59, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
Attack of the Clone
  • Preliminary: that non-templated citation needs to use {{WebCite}}. CC7567 (talk) 19:06, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
    • Added. However, I feel like I should point out that {{WebCite}} isn't covered under any policy and isn't something over which we can deny or revoke FA status. It might be worth CT'ing since it's largely become common practice, though. Menkooroo (talk) 14:33, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
Cav
  • Articles for the former NR installation and moon sensor station are probably warranted.
  • Cut off from reinforcements, a desperate unorthodox combat maneuver by Jagged Fel which involved him flying interference for a pair of shadow bombs controlled by Solo and Fel destroyed one of the interdictors and drew off the Vong forces to allow the rest of the squadron to escape. - should that ready Solo and Durron, not Solo and Fel?
  • Article for the Bothan mechanic captured by the Vong infiltrator?
  • And the infiltrator himself? - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 22:57, October 9, 2012 (UTC)
Borleias 2
  • Context needed on some things in the body on their first mention: Lando Calrissian, Millennium Falcon, Mission to Myrkr, Tahiri Veila, Cal Omas (why would his election unify the galaxy?).
  • The infobox has some errors, namely listing several Jedi Masters as Jedi Knights.
  • The article could use a good copy-edit. There are some mistakes such as words combined without spaces and the same ref number being used twice in a row. Menkooroo (talk) 15:21, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
  • "In a meeting on Borleias, Antilles, Calrissian, Colonel Tycho Celchu, and other noted veterans from the Galactic Civil War, eventually including Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, agreed to set up a network of Rebellion-style cells..." Han and Leia aren't on-world yet, but the wording of this sentence seems to imply that they eventually joined that meeting. Some re-wording is in order; Han and Leia should be introduced with proper context when the Falcon first arrives at Borleias. Menkooroo (talk) 13:25, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

  • A reminder that if this passes, it should be added to the queue, per Inq Meeting 42 (This was a failed RFAN). Menkooroo (talk) 04:44, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (Inq only)

  1. Inqvote Four-week old objections. It seems a shame to remove this article's FA status, but taking care of such a long article is a huge undertaking, and if nobody's willing to do it, then we gotta do what we gotta do. Menkooroo (talk) 11:57, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Inqvote CC7567 (talk) 19:36, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Inqvote IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 21:27, November 8, 2012 (UTC)