Wookieepedia:EduCorps/Meeting 10

EduCorps Meeting #10, aka game night, will occur on Saturday, April 12th, 2014 at 6 PM ET in the #Wookieepedia-educorps channel on the IRC. If you are an EC-only member and cannot attend, please leave notes saying how you will vote on the articles under review.

• In order to allow the Inquisitorius to meet at 8 PM, I have agreed to move this meeting to 6 PM.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 23:31, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

The Agenda

First-day update (probed at Meeting 9)

1. 128th Flight (Needs image)
   • Added one, but I'm not quite sure about the quality. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 01:53, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
     • The picture is fine, but all of these should have the base edited out. Given the angle of the pictures, this should be very simple for someone with a little know-how. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:33, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
2. 28th Flight (Needs image)
   • Added. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 10:26, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
3. 72nd Flight (Needs image)
   • Added. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 10:35, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
4. Crab-stuffed creampuff (Update tag)
5. Ebon Squadron (Needs image)
   • Added. Never done images before. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 10:38, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
6. Tree-drum music (Needs image)
   • Should this rather be: Needs update? Updated, no images I can see. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 10:35, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
     • Yes, it needed an update not an image. Kept meaning to change that. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 20:42, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

DLC

1. Rseikharhl (Update tag)
   • Won't be a month yet until after the meeting, though. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 12:34, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
     • Article is already over 250 words, an update would make it even bigger. SavageBob showed interest in GAing it since Eyrezer is not around, but that was in December. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 20:34, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
2. Death Star Rising (Update tag)
3. Talbot (I'm almost certain that this game only mentioned days since the war started, not exact years.)
   • Have a look. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 10:19, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
     • 367 days. I've been rewritting the game's main article and wrote that specifically. hope that helps! Manoof (talk) 01:16, March 31, 2014 (UTC)
       • Clarification: I just checked, the games states: "Just over one year" then mentions the above number of days Manoof (talk) 01:33, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
         • Updated the reference. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 21:54, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
4. Lord Umbriss' estate: The bolding suggests that it is supposed to have the conjecture tag. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 01:55, March 31, 2014 (UTC)
   • As far as I remember it needs the tag, but I left a question on Cade's talk page. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 22:40, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
     • Moved to canon name and edited to reflect the change after talking to Cade. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 20:48, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

1. The Force Unleashed II era problems
   • Limm Nix (This article mentions the Rebellion era in the infobox for a source in the Rise of the Empire era. The era isn't mentioned at all in the body.)
   • Band Light (There is no mention of era besides the era icon.)
   • Battle of Corrdair (There is no mention of the era besides the era icon.)
   • Unidentified captain of the Band Light (Rise of the Empire not pinned down in the body)
   • Battle of Slotern (There is no mention of the era besides the era icon.)
   • Nix (Era is unclear in the body.)
   • Pend (Era is unclear in the body.)
   • Red (Band Light) (Era is unclear in the body.)
     • AFAIK most of (or all?) these articles were written by Cal, so I won't interfere for now. IMHO Nix and the Battle of Cordair can be sourced to the Rebellion era, the rest just takes placed during the "reign" of the Empire and therefore could also happen in the "Rise of the Empire era". All tags referring to a specific era should be removed then. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 10:29, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
       • Changed with Cal's permission. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 21:46, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Date articles

Note: For these articles, I found dates that I do not believe can be directly sourced by the given source. I would have fixed these if there were just a few, but I came across a very large number. It would be nice if we could fix some of these before the meeting. I am also pointing these out here in an attempt to show people how widespread this problem has been.

1. The Shatterpoint (novel) page has a 22 BBY date while these have 21 BBY.
   • Screw maggot
   • Jinsol
     • TNEC places the Haruun Kal crisis in 21.51 BBY, therefore sourced to 21 BBY. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 10:53, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
       • First, decimal years should always be rounded backwards; 21.51 BBY rounds to 22 BBY (likewise, 20.04 BBY would round to 21 BBY and 43.5 ABY would round to 43 ABY). This is because our BBY/ABY system and the official BBY/ABY system are not the same; the official system is a relative dating system (X amount of time before a certain event), while we commonly use it as a calendar system (akin to 2014). Our 22 BBY covers everything dated from 22.00 BBY to 21.01 BBY in official sources.
       • Second, The Essential Reader's Companion explicitly places the events of Shatterpoint at 22 BBY. As the most recent source, it would take precedence.

         Master Jonathan		Council Chambers
         23:37 UTC Fri		March 28, 2014

         • Noted and corrected. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 23:40, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
2. Dates sourced to the movies
   • Unidentified Rodian 1 (Docking Bay 94) (This one is arguable, but 0 BBY is not technically mentioned in the movie.)
   • Unidentified Rodian 2 (Docking Bay 94) (This one is arguable, but 0 BBY is not technically mentioned in the movie.)
   • Unidentified Rodian 3 (Docking Bay 94) (This one is arguable, but 0 BBY is not technically mentioned in the movie.)
   • Unidentified balding Human (Chalmun's Spaceport Cantina) (This one is arguable, but 0 BBY is not technically mentioned in the movie.)
     • Sourced all four. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 21:51, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
       • Not sure about all the Rodians, but I'm pretty sure I see at least one or two of them in various CCG cards. I could check that out myself, but the original nominator should have done that before trying to promote them to begin with. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:32, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
         • Looked through the cards, only one of them is shown on Don't Tread On Me here, I think it's the 1st. Please fix if it's in fact one of the others, but I've satisfied my own objection. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:51, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
3. Star Wars: Jango Fett articles - The page for the comic sources the date to the Comics Companion. I do not have the book to check.
   • Unidentified Ho'Din patron
   • Unidentified Gotal patron (Twirling Twi'lek)
   • Unidentified Psadan patron
   • Unidentified dancer
     • All four done. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 22:48, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
4. Articles with 14 ABY date sourced to Star Wars: Jedi Academy: Can this be done?
   • Unidentified Bakuran astromech droid
   • Unidentified Hutt crime lord (Nar Kreeta)
   • Unidentified spaceport worker
   • Unidentified Tatooine astromech droid
   • Broden Kel Verdox
     • This one features speculation about the Yalarans; there's no indication of Speciecide. Should we just remove it? Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 14:21, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
       • Removed the speculation, hopefully. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 17:34, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
   • Unidentified Yavin Runner II pilot
   • Unidentified Blenjeel shipwreck survivor
   • Unidentified Tatooine moisture farmer
   • Hokk
   • J'aahn
     • Lee, technically, yes. The opening crawl says "10 years after Endor." Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 12:35, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
       • Well, that would still require a different source since the game wouldn't mention that the Battle of Endor occurred in 4 ABY. They should be easy to fix though.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 22:36, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
         • Added a reference for the date and removed the "Hide" option from the infoboxes. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 22:33, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Add as needed.

Discussion Items

1. Is it time to put meetings at every three months, per the EC page, since we are slowing down on our discussions here? Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 19:25, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Attendance

Top of the leaderboards

1. I should be there.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 03:31, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
2. Same. 501st dogma^(talk) 23:42, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

   Long week for me, but yes. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 14:04, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

3. Not 100% sure I'll be around that day, if it turns out I'm not, I'll leave notes. Supreme Emperor (talk) 14:22, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
4. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:59, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
5. JangFett ^(Talk) 21:34, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Game over

1. In case I don't make it: Exterminate all the old stuff (unless you're happy with 128th flight).
   Spare Death Star, Rseikharl, Talbot, estate, the TFU date articles, Shatterpoint date articles, ANH articles, Jango Fett date articles, and the Jedi Academy articles.
   For the record, I would have been more happy with rescheduling the meeting than moving it up, given that I am usually busy all Saturday. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 02:03, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
   • Addendum: Keep all the old stuff since Lee got to it. And I officially can't make it. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 20:42, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Minutes

• Log

Attendance

1. 501st dogma
2. Corellian Premier
3. Exiledjedi
4. Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing
5. JangFett
6. Supreme Emperor
7. Toprawa and Ralltiir
8. Xd1358

CA status removed

• Crab-stuffed creampuff

Extended until Meeting 11

• 128th Flight
• 28th Flight
• 72nd Flight
• Ebon Squadron

CA status kept

• Tree-drum music

Articles probed

• Talbot
• Limm Nix
• Band Light
• Battle of Corrdair
• Unidentified captain of the Band Light
• Battle of Slotern
• Nix
• Pend
• Red (Band Light)

Articles that passed probation due to release date

• Rseikharhl

Articles spared

• Death Star Rising
• Umbriss's estate
• Screw maggot
• Jinsol
• Unidentified Rodian 1 (Docking Bay 94)
• Unidentified Rodian 2 (Docking Bay 94)
• Unidentified Rodian 3 (Docking Bay 94)
• Unidentified balding Human (Chalmun's Spaceport Cantina)
• Unidentified Ho'Din patron
• Unidentified Gotal patron (Twirling Twi'lek)
• Unidentified Psadan patron
• Unidentified dancer
• Unidentified Bakuran astromech droid
• Unidentified Hutt crime lord (Nar Kreeta)
• Unidentified spaceport worker
• [[Unidentified Tatooine astromech droid]]
• Broden Kel Verdox
• Unidentified Yavin Runner II pilot
• Unidentified Blenjeel shipwreck survivor
• Unidentified Tatooine moisture farmer
• Hokk
• J'aahn

Responsibilities

• Supreme Emperor is responsible for scheduling.
• Exiledjedi is responsible for paperwork.