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Unidentified rookie pilot
- Nominated by: Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 22:02, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: For WP:SWG and WP:VG
(3 ECs/0 Users/3 Total)
Support
501st dogma(talk) 14:02, January 14, 2015 (UTC)- Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:19, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
- Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 19:18, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
Object
501st
As you mention the Empire and the rebels, the Galactic Civil War needs context in the first sentence.The categories need to be alphabetized.501st dogma(talk) 22:36, January 13, 2015 (UTC)- Both done. Too bad there was no bot to automatically alphabetize that gender category after its name change. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:15, January 14, 2015 (UTC)
Ayrehead
The template says that neither a light or dark side option is assumed, but isn't assuming players are Rebels assuming light side?Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:16, January 14, 2015 (UTC)I'm assuming the skirmish isn't significant enough to warrant an article?Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:16, January 14, 2015 (UTC)- To answer both: I would assume that template literally means light and dark side of the Force, of which being Rebels which is not Force-sensitive would not apply. And no the skirmish isn't significant enough for an article. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:15, January 14, 2015 (UTC)
- Given its use for many missions in TOR which have nothing to do with the force, I think the template is just game mechanic "good" or "evil" decisions so I think it's relevant here. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
- But are those "light" and "dark side" options Jedi and Sith? For I think considering Rebels good and Empire evil might violate NPOV rules. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:26, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
- Scratch that previous question I had, as I have seen there are indeed non-Force missions in that game. However I still have reasons not to consider Rebels/Empire light and dark side because of all the different personalities of people on both sides in the EU. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:18, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
- Looking through all our other SWG status articles the standard seems to be to use the base gamemechanics template without any option parameter, as seen in Aaph Koden. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:25, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
- But this is a unique case where, if you read the article carefully (or read the related M'Kae article written by myself), you will see that the characters' roles actually are changed based on the player affiliation. If the player controlled an Imperial, M'Kae and Wolff Kalos will swap roles, and Cal Handro will be wanted dead for betraying the Empire. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:35, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
- I did read the article carefully and fully understood that the roles change. I still think this should be considered a dark side choice or 100% game completion; however, since the same template is used in M'kae there is clearly precedent so I'll leave it as it is and support. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:19, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
- When that article became an FA, I only used the 100% completion template as I wasn't aware of others, but then I later changed it to what it is now upon learning of such. We'll see if any Inq changes it when it gets showcased in March, but I feel like it's the appropriate tag based on the changing storyline. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 19:40, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
- I did read the article carefully and fully understood that the roles change. I still think this should be considered a dark side choice or 100% game completion; however, since the same template is used in M'kae there is clearly precedent so I'll leave it as it is and support. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:19, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
- But this is a unique case where, if you read the article carefully (or read the related M'Kae article written by myself), you will see that the characters' roles actually are changed based on the player affiliation. If the player controlled an Imperial, M'Kae and Wolff Kalos will swap roles, and Cal Handro will be wanted dead for betraying the Empire. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:35, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
- Looking through all our other SWG status articles the standard seems to be to use the base gamemechanics template without any option parameter, as seen in Aaph Koden. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:25, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
- Scratch that previous question I had, as I have seen there are indeed non-Force missions in that game. However I still have reasons not to consider Rebels/Empire light and dark side because of all the different personalities of people on both sides in the EU. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:18, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
- But are those "light" and "dark side" options Jedi and Sith? For I think considering Rebels good and Empire evil might violate NPOV rules. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:26, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
- Given its use for many missions in TOR which have nothing to do with the force, I think the template is just game mechanic "good" or "evil" decisions so I think it's relevant here. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
- To answer both: I would assume that template literally means light and dark side of the Force, of which being Rebels which is not Force-sensitive would not apply. And no the skirmish isn't significant enough for an article. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:15, January 14, 2015 (UTC)