Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Unidentified planet (Magna Tolvan)

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Unidentified planet (Magna Tolvan)

  • Nominated by: Zed42 (talk) 08:25, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Petition to make "A Long Way From Anywhere" the official name of this planet.

(3 ECs/4 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. ECvote I second the motion. Imperators II(Talk) 22:30, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  2. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 02:53, January 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 03:36, January 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:43, January 12, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 07:32, January 12, 2019 (UTC)
  6. ECvote QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 19:45, January 12, 2019 (UTC)
  7. ECvote MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 21:31, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Object

Anil
  • It would be nice to have some context for Aphra and Tolvan, just saying that Aphra was a rogue archaeologist and Tolvan was an Imperial captain should be enough.
    • Context has now been added. Zed42 (talk) 10:00, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Since you have "Type I" atmosphere in the infobox, you have to mention it in the article body as well.
    • Added clarification to the statement regarding its atmosphere. Zed42 (talk) 10:00, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • You can add "grass" to the infobox as flora.
    • Added. Zed42 (talk) 10:00, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • As the comic panel states "A Long Way From Anywhere," you can say something like "the planet was in a distant corner of the galaxy."
    • Good point, I thought I'd already done that. Zed42 (talk) 10:00, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Per Wookieepedia:Mofferences/January 6, 2019, there shouldn't be any links in quotes.
    • Sorry to interject here, but you're misreading that, Anil. At the Mofference it was decided that there should be no links within the quoted text itself, but the quote attribution field can still contain links if the subjects are not linked in the article's body. Imperators II(Talk) 09:53, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
      • Oh, I know that, but apparently I need my eyes checked. Thanks, Imperators. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 09:56, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Mentioning that Tolvan eventually got off the planet, and was subsequently demoted for her failure would be nice as the quote reflects that. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 09:45, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. Zed42 (talk) 10:00, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • I believe you should also add that Aphra's father was with her as well when they traveled to the planet. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 10:57, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. Zed42 (talk) 20:59, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • When a quote is presented within a larger quote, the internal quote gets single quotation marks, not double. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 11:02, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • Fixed. Zed42 (talk) 20:59, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
Imp
  • "purple grass plains" — is the grass purple? 'Cause it looks green in the image. Can you reword this to clarify? Imperators II(Talk) 10:11, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • It's hard to tell in the wider image, but a later panel shows the grass closer, and it's purple. Should the other colors still be mentioned? Zed42 (talk) 10:41, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Context for the Citadel of Rur, please. Imperators II(Talk) 10:11, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • Added. Zed42 (talk) 10:41, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • For the atmosphere, you're using Arabic numerals in the reference but Roman numerals in infobox and body. Imperators II(Talk) 10:12, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • The reference has been removed, per the comment below. Zed42 (talk) 10:41, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Actually, I'm wondering if atmospheres in Canon should be treated the same as in Legends. Our own Canon article on atmosphere states that "On worlds with a "Type II" atmosphere, breath masks were advised for longer exposures." — do you have any idea if this is correct? If it is, or if there's another source that says Type II atmospheres are uncomfortable to breathe in without a gas mask for long periods of time, but not instantaneously deadly, how can we tell if a planet has a Type I or a Type II atmosphere? Better to just stick to saying the atmosphere was breathable, without assigning a type unless specified by a source. And, to reiterate, this is what we've been doing with Legends status articles for a while now. Imperators II(Talk) 10:17, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • I'm unable to verify (or expand on) that statement myself, but that's a good point. I've changed it to just "breathable" now. Zed42 (talk) 10:41, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
      • Actually, would the removal of "Type I" mean it should no longer be in the "Type I atmosphere planets" category? Zed42 (talk) 20:59, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
        • Yeah, you should remove it. Imperators II(Talk) 21:11, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
          • Alright, I removed it. Zed42 (talk) 21:21, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • From what I've heard, the Canon comics are notoriously hard to pin down to a specific date, so I just want to confirm this: is the comic explicitly set in "0 ABY"? If not, the date should either be removed or a manual reference note should be written to explain how the date is derived. Imperators II(Talk) 10:49, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • It does not, if I may chime in. I think "some time after the Battle of Yavin" would be much better. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 10:52, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
      • I replaced the date with that, referencing it to Aphra #3, as the battle is mentioned as a past event in that issue. Zed42 (talk) 20:59, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
        • OK, that's a good start. But (I'm assuming) Aphra 3 doesn't mention the planet, i.e., it doesn't say "Aphra left Tolvan on the planet some time after the Battle of Yavin". So you need to turn that date ref into a manual ref note that says that Aphra 6, which features the planet, is set after Aphra 3, the events of which take place following Yavin. Imperators II(Talk) 21:11, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
          • Added a reference. Is it worded correctly? Zed42 (talk) 21:21, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
            • It's fine. Don't forget to always check everything in the reference for linking. Imperators II(Talk) 21:36, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Can we get a full publication date for the comic? We don't consistently require it for stand-alone media like sourcebooks and novels, where we can just go with the release year, but a precedent is emerging to provide a full date for sequential stuff that gets released within the span of month(s), like comics or TV episodes. Imperators II(Talk) 21:36, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • Added. Zed42 (talk) 21:52, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • You should specify that Kev Walker was the penciler of the comic. I think it's fair to only be mentioning the penciler alongside the writer, but not quite so to refer to them as the sole illustrator. Imperators II(Talk) 21:36, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. Zed42 (talk) 21:52, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
Ruiz
  • Can the second paragraph be dated? According to the Twilight of the Ordu Aspectu article, it says that it happened in 0 ABY--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 10:20, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • Added a date. Zed42 (talk) 10:41, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
      • I was pointing out the date mentioned in the article, you need to explain how the events can be placed in 0 ABY, or go with what Anil mentioned in the objection--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 11:09, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
        • Ah, I see. It's been changed to "after the Battle of Yavin" now. Zed42 (talk) 20:59, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
QGJ
  • Even if he is only mentioned within the quote attribution, Punfor still requires a bit of context.
    • Added. Zed42 (talk) 20:59, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • What exactly was Tolvan's "failure?" You never mention it within the article body, only as part of the quote. but was demoted to the rank of lieutenant for her failure QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 14:35, January 11, 2019 (UTC)
    • I've added the information, but if it needs to be even more specific, I can do that. Zed42 (talk) 20:59, January 11, 2019 (UTC)

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