- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a Comprehensive article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Ri-Lee Howell
- Nominated by: Vitus InfinitusTalk 17:25, April 10, 2020 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: I strongly feel that this article should be a status article as Wookieepedia's own way of honoring Riley, ensuring that this article is as perfect as it can be in our agenda to catalog the Star Wars universe. I look forward to getting this passed.
(4 ECs/1 Users/5 Total)
Support
- UberSoldat93
(talk) 05:36, April 11, 2020 (UTC) 
Zed42 (talk) 01:28, April 15, 2020 (UTC)- Fan26 (Talk) 18:57, April 15, 2020 (UTC)
—spookywillowwtalk 23:29, April 16, 2020 (UTC)- Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 17:10, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
Object
Fan
Ref note five is missing information.Fan26 (Talk) 17:36, April 13, 2020 (UTC)- I revised that section of the BTS and properly sourced.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 19:21, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
- I meant that the CiteWeb template itself was missing information (see the template page for guidance). The actual NPR article in ref 5 (before the BtS was changed) contains all of the information that was cited to it, save the description of what happened in the 'Tik Tok' post (it shows up as "unavailable" in the article). Of the three citations you now have, both of the ones that utilize CiteWeb are lacking the same sourcing information that was missing from the original ref 5. I don't feel that all this is necessary; the NPR article originally used was sufficient enough and contained ll the information cited to it. Furthermore, I don't think the description of the 'Tik Tok' post is relevant to the article; it and the twitter citation it is sourced to can be removed. Fan26 (Talk) 22:16, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, I misunderstood. Reverted and fixed original issue.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 23:39, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
- I meant that the CiteWeb template itself was missing information (see the template page for guidance). The actual NPR article in ref 5 (before the BtS was changed) contains all of the information that was cited to it, save the description of what happened in the 'Tik Tok' post (it shows up as "unavailable" in the article). Of the three citations you now have, both of the ones that utilize CiteWeb are lacking the same sourcing information that was missing from the original ref 5. I don't feel that all this is necessary; the NPR article originally used was sufficient enough and contained ll the information cited to it. Furthermore, I don't think the description of the 'Tik Tok' post is relevant to the article; it and the twitter citation it is sourced to can be removed. Fan26 (Talk) 22:16, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
- I revised that section of the BTS and properly sourced.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 19:21, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
"...that became viral on the internet and resulted in a lot of press." Please reword this to fit a more encyclopedic tone.Fan26 (Talk) 13:24, April 15, 2020 (UTC)- Fixed--Vitus InfinitusTalk 18:48, April 15, 2020 (UTC)
Zed
Luke Skywalker and Rey need context provided.Zed42 (talk) 21:11, April 13, 2020 (UTC)- Done--Vitus InfinitusTalk 23:40, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
Spooky
I think that at least an 'around' ABY date can be added for when Rey took the books, given the war's timeframe of 34—35 ABY, if not an exact year using TLJ's expanded edition.- Added note--Vitus InfinitusTalk 18:27, April 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Instead of dating the war, I've gone and placed Rey's acquirement of the Aionomica volumes to 'around 34 ABY'; seemed more on-topic to Howell. Let me know if there's any issues with it.—spookywillowwtalk 19:31, April 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry to intrude, but since the TROS Visual Dictionary definitively places the events of TLJ to the same year as TFA, that should be used instead of "around 34 ABY," since the film itself shows that Rey took the Jedi texts before leaving for Crait. Zed42 (talk) 23:21, April 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Neat catch. Went ahead and amended since that one had been mine, swapped from the prior war one.—spookywillowwtalk 23:29, April 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry to intrude, but since the TROS Visual Dictionary definitively places the events of TLJ to the same year as TFA, that should be used instead of "around 34 ABY," since the film itself shows that Rey took the Jedi texts before leaving for Crait. Zed42 (talk) 23:21, April 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Instead of dating the war, I've gone and placed Rey's acquirement of the Aionomica volumes to 'around 34 ABY'; seemed more on-topic to Howell. Let me know if there's any issues with it.—spookywillowwtalk 19:31, April 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Added note--Vitus InfinitusTalk 18:27, April 16, 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure the double reference in the second paragraph of the BtS is necessary: the verbage there looks like it could be sourced to either one alone, or otherwise made to not be a double.- Fixed--Vitus InfinitusTalk 18:27, April 16, 2020 (UTC)
I don't think the proper usage of |last= and |first= is employed in {{Cite web}} in reference #2. Instead of cramming two authors into the |last= and |first= slots and relying on former/latter logic, |author= and |coauthors= would suit better.—spookywillowwtalk 17:21, April 16, 2020 (UTC)- Fixed--Vitus InfinitusTalk 18:27, April 16, 2020 (UTC)
Anil
Since there are at least three other Howells on the Wook, I think you should create a disambiguation page for Howell and add an {{Otheruses}} tag to this article.- Done
Does any of the sources suggest that the Aionomica was an "ancient" text or something like that? If so, I think it should be added here, as it could give us a better idea of when the Jedi lived.- There aren't any such words specific to the Aionomica but it says that the sacred texts originated from the dawn of the Jedi Order.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 02:30, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
- Then I believe just adding that the Aionomica was one of those sacred texts that dated back to the dawn of the Jedi Order would be beneficial to this article. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 14:11, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
- Done--Vitus InfinitusTalk 16:53, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
- Then I believe just adding that the Aionomica was one of those sacred texts that dated back to the dawn of the Jedi Order would be beneficial to this article.
- There aren't any such words specific to the Aionomica but it says that the sacred texts originated from the dawn of the Jedi Order.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 02:30, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
The Visual Dictionary says that Howell also did codifications of the Force, and his explorations and codifications were among "many of the earlist." Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:22, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
- Added info--Vitus InfinitusTalk 02:30, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
Comments
- I have added a quote and an image.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 19:21, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
Approved as a Comprehensive article by EduCorps 17:11, April 17, 2020 (UTC)