Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Memorial staff

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Memorial staff

Nominated by: YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 16:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Nomination comments: The article covers everything we know about memorial staves

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Support

Well done on your first status article! I hope to see more from you. OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 16:46, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
VergenceScatter (talk) 17:05, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
LucaRoR (Talk) 13:38, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Really impressed! Great first status article. Dentface (talk) 15:28, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Object

Vergence

~~Context needed for Thalias and Thrawn.~~

~~Both of those should be referred to by their full names.~~

~~Unsourced information in the infobox.~~ VergenceScatter (talk) 16:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Addressed all of these. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 17:13, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
~~Could use a date.~~ VergenceScatter (talk) 17:22, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done as well :). YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 17:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
  - Please pipelink the date template, as was done on Building snap. VergenceScatter (talk) 17:55, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
    - Okay, done. Is there any reason for this? I've seen and used a lot of those dating citation templates in articles via {{bracket transclusion}}. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 18:21, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
      - It's done so that the reference is shorter. Otherwise we'd have a whole paragraph of text in the notes and references section. VergenceScatter (talk) 21:03, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

OOM

Welcome to the CAN! Here are some issues I picked up over my initial skim of the article:
- ~~For the date ref, you can just say something along the lines of "Chaos Rising takes place in 19 BBY per the reasoning here." Links should be added where appropiate.~~
- ~~For the locations field in the infobox, only the immediate location (i.e. Mitth family homestead) and the planet is needed.~~
- ~~While optional, I think it's best in this case to use the singular "memorial staff" instead of the two plural forms for the first, bolded instance of the article title.~~
- ~~A tiny bit of context is needed for Chiss. Simply the word "species" would do fine here.~~
- Manufacturer: Chiss families is infobox-exclusive. "Infobox-exclusive" means information is only presented in the infobox, when every bit of information said in the infobox should be present in the article body as well. OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 20:27, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
  - Addressed all of those. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 23:40, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
    - Please see this copy-edit
~~I don't think "Leaving a legacy" is necessary for the infobox; the other two bullet points already communicate the same thing.~~
~~It would be more accurate to list Chiss family in place of the Mitth family in the infobox.~~ OOM 224 ^{༼༽talk༼༽} 10:28, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done and done. — YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 15:52, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

CC-8

~~"be the memorial staff" I think you're meaning that Thrawn would have a staff by the old man's but the wording is a bit odd.~~ Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 11:43, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- That wording is the exact wording used by Patriarch Thooraki, but I rephrased it. — YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 19:16, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
  - Didn't notice that lol, he's talking metaphorically so I think the change is warranted. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 05:03, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
~~Can go in Category:Staffs~~
- Done. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 16:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
~~Is the page supposed to be in the navbox template at the bottom?~~ Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 05:03, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- No, so I'll remove it. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 16:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Macaroni

~~Csilla is infobox-exclusive.~~ JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 17:31, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done — YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 19:16, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
  - ~~Now it needs context.~~ JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 21:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
    - Better? -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 16:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
~~There are a couple duplicate links, which can be found using the gadget here.~~ JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 04:58, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
- I enabled the gadget, but don't see any, apart from some in the intro that are re-linked in the body. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 16:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  - For next time you need to click the button under "My Tools." I've removed them for you for now. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 21:43, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
    - Ah, I see it now. Thank you. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 21:48, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

UberSoldat

~~Word count is at 192, sectioning required.~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:47, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Better? -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 17:46, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
  - Now needs a Description section per Layout Guide. Also, all you've done right now is create a section header. The intro needs to provide a good summary of the subject, followed by details in Description and History. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:54, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
    - I tried. Is it better now? Or do I need to do more? -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 22:53, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
      - Everything that is mentioned in the intro has to be presented in the body somewhere, since the former is written using details in the latter. For example, you mention that the staff is decorated, but this isn't mentioned anywhere in the body. UberSoldat93 (talk) 08:52, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
        How is it now, between me and @LucaRoR's edits? -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 20:36, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
        There is still intro-exclusive information, look at the second sentence. UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:48, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
        Handled. --YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 16:54, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
~~Why is "Mitth family homestead" the only location listed in the infobox if the intro and Description both say the staff could be found at any Chiss family's homestead?~~ UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:56, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- The Mitth homestead is the only one we have seen them at, and is in fact the only homestead that appeared as more than a mention. — YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 08:40, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  - Why not just leave it at "Csilla" then? It's still accurate and is consistent with the info presented elsewhere. UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:52, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
    - Good idea, doing now :) -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 15:59, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
After reading through the novel, it appears there is some missing information, such as Thooraki telling Thalias to study the staffs while making her way to the top of the mountain. UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:09, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Good catch. I'll get to it today. -- YakovChaimTzvi (talk) 16:55, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Comments

My copy-edit LucaRoR (Talk) 09:03, 22 July 2021 (UTC)