- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.
L-2832
- Nominated by: GethralkinHyperwave 08:36, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: SWPM/TCW tie-in
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- Imperators II
Full name of the "CIS" should be used upon first mention.- Done. GethralkinHyperwave 09:18, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
Is {{1stID}} really necessary, seeing how the ship didn't appear unnamed in any previous source?Imperators II(Talk) 19:43, June 5, 2011 (UTC)- Good point. Fixed. GethralkinHyperwave 09:18, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
- This article is 197 words. Merely using the formula for mentioning TCW appearances ("the first episode of the first season of Star Wars: The Clone Wars") or literally any of its creative variants, which is something I have mentioned to you before, would bring this to 200 words. Mentioning the infobox-exclusive Haor Chall Engineering would have the same result. Write this out as a GA, with the detailed ship description. Frankly, you shouldn't have had any inclination at all that this could be a CA. NaruHina Talk
20:15, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing out my error in leaving the manufacturer in, which there is no source to back up for this ship. Removing this from the infobox means that I do not need to add it into the article body—which is 193 after I changed the Bts at your suggestion. GethralkinHyperwave 09:18, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
- I would also appreciate you keeping your comments more civil and constructive instead of announcing that I am not following up on whatever you feel I should have learned from you before, or by telling me what my inclinations should or shouldn't be. My inclinations are up to me, not you. We are here to make better articles, not stomp on members that are new to the nomination process and doing their best to do their best. GethralkinHyperwave 09:38, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
- You are splitting hairs here and this is verging on gaming the system. This article could easily go to GA length with the proper information, i.e. the description you've still omitted, and it should. It does not help the article's quality to condense it. This page is for when the article reaches the absolute extent of the available information, not for when it is possible to distil it down to the bare minimum so that you can avoid the attempt that the 200 words rule calls for. Claiming that you are new to the nomination process is not a vilid excuse here, as you've already had a few noms transfer to the GAN in this way and you have been explicitly told not to do this. NaruHina Talk 15:46, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
- You are splitting hairs here and this is verging on gaming the system. This article could easily go to GA length with the proper information, i.e. the description you've still omitted, and it should. It does not help the article's quality to condense it. This page is for when the article reaches the absolute extent of the available information, not for when it is possible to distil it down to the bare minimum so that you can avoid the attempt that the 200 words rule calls for. Claiming that you are new to the nomination process is not a vilid excuse here, as you've already had a few noms transfer to the GAN in this way and you have been explicitly told not to do this. NaruHina Talk
- I would also appreciate you keeping your comments more civil and constructive instead of announcing that I am not following up on whatever you feel I should have learned from you before, or by telling me what my inclinations should or shouldn't be. My inclinations are up to me, not you. We are here to make better articles, not stomp on members that are new to the nomination process and doing their best to do their best. GethralkinHyperwave 09:38, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing out my error in leaving the manufacturer in, which there is no source to back up for this ship. Removing this from the infobox means that I do not need to add it into the article body—which is 193 after I changed the Bts at your suggestion. GethralkinHyperwave 09:18, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
- "The deployment was part of a challenge to pit the strength of the Separatist Droid Army against the skills of Jedi Master Yoda in order to impress Toydarian King Katuunko of the "benefits" of Separatist support, thereby preventing the Galactic Republic from gaining a supply-line foothold in Hutt Space and shifting the tide of war in favor of the Confederacy of Independent Systems." Quite choppy long sentence. Also, I'd like to second Naru and Lee—this article could easily be taken to the GAN by sectioning it. The intro explanation of why the ship was on Rugosa is very short and thus slightly hard to understand. It could be better explained in a separate section. 1358 (Talk) 12:00, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
- I don't disagree with the objections he made, but the way they were presented. Your comment is an excellent example of a productive constructive critique. It shows me what aspects I missed when I was writing the article (which was a one-line sentence before I started expanding it). Splitting it into sections is a good idea. I just didn't think I had enough info to be able to do that until you made your suggestions. Thank you. GethralkinHyperwave 18:18, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
Comments
- I believe this article should be able to reach 250 words with a bio and a detailed description of the ship itself. Clone Commander Lee Talk 09:12, June 5, 2011 (UTC)