- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a comprehensive article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Kylo Batta
- Nominated by: Cwedin(talk) 02:46, July 11, 2018 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!
(3 ECs/1 Users/4 Total)
Support
Tommy 
Macaroni 17:47, July 11, 2018 (UTC)- Clearly the inspiration for Kylo Ren. Ayrehead02 (talk) 06:35, July 12, 2018 (UTC)
- grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 16:49, July 12, 2018 (UTC)
Kraven, huh? Imperators II(Talk) 07:16, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
Object
Tommy
As the son is alive during the time of the Empire, could we establish some sort of timeframe?Tommy Macaroni 12:21, July 11, 2018 (UTC)
Imp
What fact exactly determines that the subject was alive during the Rise of the Empire era, instead of, say, the Rebellion era?Imperators II(Talk) 16:53, July 18, 2018 (UTC)- Kylo was of age when Kaori was born, and Kaori reached adulthood under Imperial rule, so it stands to reason that Kylo was alive before 0 BBY. - Cwedin(talk) 18:59, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
- Well, none of this reasoning is present in the article. Note that it would have to be supported by sources providing info on Human lifespans. Imperators II(Talk) 10:05, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
- Alright, how's it look now? - Cwedin(talk) 19:15, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
- First off, I'm seeing absolutely no sourcing for the Imperial Period taking place between 19 BBY and 4 ABY (in fact, I personally avoid using that term explicitly since I've yet to find sources for it). And see this for a way to provide a source for the Rise of the Empire era dates. But more importantly, the logic in the current reference note is off. What can actually be deduced from the two listed facts is that Kylo Batta probably fathered Kaori before 9 BBY — which doesn't necessarily mean that it happened after 1000 BBY (and therefore, in the Rise of the Empire era). From just the information currently provided, Kaori could have just as well been born in the Old Republic era or earlier. Honestly, I'd just remove the era from the infobox if I were you. Imperators II(Talk) 21:50, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
- Alright, how's it look now? - Cwedin(talk) 19:15, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
- Well, none of this reasoning is present in the article. Note that it would have to be supported by sources providing info on Human lifespans. Imperators II(Talk) 10:05, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
- Kylo was of age when Kaori was born, and Kaori reached adulthood under Imperial rule, so it stands to reason that Kylo was alive before 0 BBY. - Cwedin(talk) 18:59, July 19, 2018 (UTC)