Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Honor Guard

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Honor Guard

• Nominated by: Vitus Infinitus^Talk 03:49, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
• Nomination comments: The honorable Honor Guard is composed of honorable honor guards from the Senate Guard that guard the Senate.

(2 ECs/3 Users/5 Total)

Support

1. Tommy Macaroni 17:20, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
   • Thanks for your review!--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 12:40, April 5, 2018 (UTC)
2. AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 17:23, April 5, 2018 (UTC)
   • Thanks AV!--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 17:46, April 5, 2018 (UTC)
3. Cwedin^(talk) 14:17, April 30, 2018 (UTC)
4. Ayrehead02 (talk) 06:24, May 24, 2018 (UTC)
5. Nice work! Imperators II^(Talk) 13:35, June 20, 2018 (UTC)

Object

The honourable Tommy (yes that's how you spell it!)

• Galactic Republic is infobox exclusive.
  • Added--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:14, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
• Who wrote Senate Murders?
  • Added--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:14, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
    • You're missing a space. Also, try to work the writers in so they can use the same ref as the beginning, to reduce the amount of refs you use.
      • Fixed--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 16:08, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
• In the infobox you refer to the Senate Guard as a singular, as if it is a specific organisation, but in the body you call them the Senate Guards, as it they are a group. Please make sure this is accurate and uniform throughout.
  • Whoops, fixed--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:14, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
• Per my reply to your message, we can't source the events to 21 BBY with Galactic Atlas, so if you want to mention the date, it should be something like around 21 BBY, with a ref note explaining why.
  • Added--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:26, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
    • First, commas go inside your "s. Second, I'd like to see "where the funeral of Onaconda Farr takes place" with commas around it, to break up the sentence. Third, I think you should either say "between the years 21 and 20 BBY" or "around the year 21 BBY".
      • Fixed--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 16:08, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
  • Are the events around the funeral dated, like the Battle of Sullust or the Bombing of Coruscant's central power distribution grid?--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:14, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
    • No, the ones on my talk page are the closest ones I can find to Senate Murders, Tommy Macaroni 15:40, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
      • Okay thanks. I commented here before I saw your reply on the user talk page--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 16:08, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
• In the BTS you refer to the Honor Guard as "they", but in the body you say "The Honor Guard[1] was". Is it singular or plural? Tommy Macaroni 11:10, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
  • "They" can be singular and plural I think--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:14, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
• I think just "Guard" is sufficient for the type field in the infobox, Tommy Macaroni 11:13, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
  • Fixed--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:14, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
• Could you get an audio file for the quote please. I think Ayrehead may be able to get one for you if you ask nicely, Tommy Macaroni 15:58, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
  • I've been told this isn't a requirement for status articles. My apologies. Tommy Macaroni 17:20, April 4, 2018 (UTC)
    • No worries, Ayrehead was able to add the audio.--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 12:40, April 5, 2018 (UTC)
• In the BTS you say "The Honor Guard" and "the unit" as in a group, but in the rest of the article, per Imperators' objection, you say it's a name for an individual. Please make this constant. Tommy Macaroni 16:08, May 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • How is it now?--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 16:11, May 20, 2018 (UTC)

Ecks Dee

• I'm not sure what you're trying to say in your date reference. How exactly do we know that "Senate Murders" takes place after "Legacy of Terror" and before "Massacre"? 1358 ^(Talk) 21:20, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
  • Star Wars: Galactic Atlas states that the Battle of Dathomir took place in 20 BBY, while the Second Battle of Geonosis took place in 21 BBY. The funeral took place between those events, so it must be sometime between 21 and 20 BBY--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 21:23, April 18, 2018 (UTC)
    • And how do we know the funeral took place between those events? 1358 ^(Talk) 14:58, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
      • Because the episode it appeared in, Senate Murderss, takes place after Landing at Point Rain that featured the Second Battle of Geonosis and before Nightsisters (episode), where the Battle of Dathomir takes place. Perhaps I should include the chronology of the episodes?--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:01, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
        • You definitely need to include some sort of canonical TCW episode timeline in the reference. The episodes weren't aired chronologically. 1358 ^(Talk) 15:03, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
          • How is it now?--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 20:10, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
            • I tried to reword the reference for clarity. Please see if you're satisfied. Remember to include links to any online resources you refer to (in this case, it was appropriate to link the starwars.com chronological timeline with the appropriate template). 1358 ^(Talk) 23:22, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
              • Much better, thank you--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 23:27, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
• We've been treating the old sw.com episode guides as Canon with the reasoning that they were adapted directly from the script. The Clone Wars Episode Guide: Senate Murders on StarWars.com (original site is defunct) mentions them in the "Trivia and Details" section and there's a nice Bts tidbit you should add to this article.
• Review note: {{SW}} requires archivedate (preferred) or archiveurl. {{cite web}} is probably the only template that has a separate parameter for the date when the page was archived. 1358 ^(Talk) 23:40, April 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • So do I use {{cite web}} instead of {{SW}}?--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 00:13, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
    • No, always use the most specific citation template. I'm just saying that cite web is the only one that requires both archiveurl and archivedate. The others require one of them. 1358 ^(Talk) 18:26, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
      • Ah, got it. Done--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 19:17, April 21, 2018 (UTC)
• The second sentence is somewhat of a run-on. Can we please split it up? 1358 ^(Talk) 17:49, April 25, 2018 (UTC)
  • Fixed--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 17:51, April 25, 2018 (UTC)

Imperators

• In the listing of the Honor Guard's distinguishing features, please mention their armor with markings first, and establish that the armor was that of the regular Senate Guard. Imperators II^(Talk) 08:51, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • Done--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 16:37, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
• In the date ref, the specific events of those other episodes aren't relevant to the dating of "Senate Murders." Imperators II^(Talk) 08:51, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • How is it now?--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 16:37, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
• "The caped and plumed Senate Guards were first animated in the episode, with the Honor Guards marking the first appearance." — this makes little sense, please clarify. Imperators II^(Talk) 08:51, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • Fixed--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 16:37, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
• "When the Senate Guards first appeared in the first season, it was too costly to simulate and animate the capes" — please specify what show this season was the first of. Imperators II^(Talk) 08:51, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
  • Fixed--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 16:37, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
• Slide 10 of the episode guide concept art gallery indicates an "Honor Guard" is an individual member of the organization, but it doesn't call the organization "the Honor Guard." Imperators II^(Talk) 18:33, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
  • Slide 10's caption is "Concept art for Honor Guards" and there are 16 seen in the episode, so I think it's safe to say that they are a type of unit or type of soldier/guard--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 20:10, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
    • You've misunderstood me. What I meant was that, in accordance with the information in the slide, the article shouldn't begin with "The Honor Guard was [...]," but rather with "An Honor Guard was a [...]" or "Honor Guards were [...]." Imperators II^(Talk) 07:24, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
      • OH okay, yeah I misunderstood, sorry about that--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 12:38, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
        • Fixed--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 12:45, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
• 211 words, let's see an intro. Imperators II^(Talk) 07:25, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
  • Added--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 12:45, May 17, 2018 (UTC)
• I'm not exactly sure what you mean here: "At least eight Honor Guards conducted a present arms salute after a eulogy by[2] Farr's aide,[4] Silood, and as the casket was being brought aboard a Republic frigate." — did the Honor Guards conducted the salute two times, once after the eulogy and then as the casket was being brought aboard the frigate, or just once, when the casket was being brought aboard the frigate following the eulogy? Imperators II^(Talk) 10:50, May 27, 2018 (UTC)
  • Just once, clarified.--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 13:35, June 19, 2018 (UTC)
• Can we get another image for the body? Imperators II^(Talk) 10:10, June 20, 2018 (UTC)
  • Does body include BTS? I found a BTS image but I also have another image of a guard in the episode.--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 12:36, June 20, 2018 (UTC)
    • You could probably add an image both to History and BTS. Imperators II^(Talk) 12:46, June 20, 2018 (UTC)
      • Added both--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 13:16, June 20, 2018 (UTC)

Ayrehead

• Context for Silood and Purs. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:17, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
  • Added--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 20:23, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
• You use at least X of them twice in two sentences, could you vary the wording at all? Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:17, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
  • Done--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 20:23, May 16, 2018 (UTC)
• You should split the characteristics section into two sentence. Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:43, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
  • Split--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:54, May 20, 2018 (UTC)
• No that the article is split you can remove NOTOC. Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:43, May 19, 2018 (UTC)
  • Removed--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 15:54, May 20, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

• I will be on vacation and thus unavailable between May 31st to June 18th. I will not be able to address objections during that time as I will have no effective means of doing so. I will be taking care of all raised objections between now to the 31st, thank you for understanding.--Vitus Infinitus^Talk 13:46, May 19, 2018 (UTC)