Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Bellator-class dreadnought

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Bellator-class dreadnought

  • Nominated by: Vitus InfinitusTalk 23:23, September 23, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Baellator

(3 ECs/3 Users/6 Total)

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Support

  1. ECvote QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 13:52, October 13, 2020 (UTC)
  2. ECvote UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 10:20, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Braha'tok enthusiast (Hello there) 10:22, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
  4. LordMominutiae (talk) 17:26, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
  5. --Lewisr (talk) 23:11, October 20, 2020 (UTC)
  6. ECvote Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:45, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Object

Braha'tok enthusiast
  • "that was in service to the Galactic Empire during its reign by the introduction of the Executor-class Star Dreadnought and the Assertor-class Command Dreadnought." Do you mean "by the time of the introduction"? And if so, it is a different explanation "introduced by the time of the Imperial Era" (in history) in the fact the first says during and the other says by the time of in regards to the "Imperial Era". Braha'tok enthusiast (Hello there) 16:14, September 27, 2020 (UTC)
    • I'm trying to say that it existed after the Assertor and Executor were introduced--Vitus InfinitusTalk 17:07, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
      • Ok, but article says the Bellator was in service "by the introduction of the Executor-class Star Dreadnought and the Assertor-class Command Dreadnought"—implying it was around before the latter two vessels—and you've just said you're saying it existed "after the Assertor and Executor were introduced", which has confused me. Also you still have those two mildy different points: "was in service to the Galactic Empire during its reign" and "introduced by the time of the Imperial Era" because the second implies it was in service prior to the Empire's "reign". Braha'tok enthusiast (Hello there) 17:49, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
QGJ
  • Article does not comply with Rule 12 of the CAN. Main body currently stands at 156 words, so subsectioning needs to be removed.
  • Bts needs to mention the author of Lead by Example
    • Per precedent, FFG sourcebooks do not need to include authors as far as I'm aware of. One instance and explanation can be found here.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 17:12, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
      • The precedent cited there concerned a book with a long laundry list of authors, which would have created a visual mess by listing them all in an article. Lead by Example is attributed to a single author, on the other hand, so I don't see why listing him would be detrimental to the quality of this specific article. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 06:38, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
        • The book attributes multiple authors, the Wook's entry of the book does not.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 21:35, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
          • OK. In that case, I agree that its unneccessary to list them. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:00, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
  • This sentence is grammatically incorrect. The Bellator-class dreadnought originally in the Star Wars Legends comic book Dark Empire 2: Devastator of Worlds[3] that was released on February 18, 1982[4] and drawn by Cam Kennedy.
  • Image caption is formatted incorrectly. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:10, October 2, 2020 (UTC)
    • Added underscore--Vitus InfinitusTalk 17:12, October 4, 2020 (UTC)
      • That wasn't the issue here. The caption is not a complete sentence, so there should be no punctuation. It either needs to be turned into a sentence to preserve the full stop, or kept as is with the punctuation removed. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 06:38, October 5, 2020 (UTC)
  • The first sentence seems a bit run-on. It should probably better be split in two.
  • Bts needs to provide a better explanation that the ship in the Dark Empire comic was originally unnamed and was only identified as a Bellator in The Essential Guide to Warfare. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 07:00, October 8, 2020 (UTC)
UberSoldat
  • Body should be split into two evenly-sized paragraphs for better clarity. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 19:01, October 7, 2020 (UTC)
Ayrehead
  • You can go into much more detail about the similarities between the Bellator and the Surveyor, the book says that the Bellator has a similar structure to the command bunker style structure atop the Surveyor. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:53, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
    • I was told to remove that information from this article's good article nomination, which brought the word count below GA standards. I thought it was also appropriate to have that information.--Vitus InfinitusTalk 21:25, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
      • I'd say you can still add more, you can describe the Surveyor command structure: "broad, heavily shielded structure like a bunker rises at the aft of the ship and extends over the main drives" since this is specifically what it's similar to. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:56, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
        • If I re-add that info it will go back up to a GAN, which this article was demoted from since that was objected to and the info had to be removed. I would like to add it but I'm not sure what else to do here without going back and forth several times. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 23:38, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
          • I'll discuss with Tope. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:08, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
            • Sorry for the delay. I've discussed this with Tope and he's happy for you to expand the sentence about the Surveyor to include that the Surveyor's command structure is "A broad, heavily shielded structure like a bunker rises at the aft of the ship and extends over the main drives". Make sure you reword it though so it's not verbatim from the source. Ayrehead02 (talk) 19:08, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
  • The book doesn't say that the entire family of dreadnaughts is characterised by the features you describe, just the Assertor, so I think the description of the Assertor can be removed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:53, October 12, 2020 (UTC)
  • The book also doesn't seem to state anything about the Bellator and the Mandator being comparable in size. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:53, October 12, 2020 (UTC)

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