Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Abbaji (minor)

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Abbaji (minor)

Nominated by: Winterz (talk) 20:26, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
Nomination comments:

(2 ECs/0 Users/2 Total)

Support

Cade, I think Winterz is challenging you for the maximum number of noms on this page. 501st dogma^(talk) 20:19, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
- Sky's the limit! :p Winterz (talk) 14:49, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
  - If war is what you want, my young friend, then war is what you will get! !crazylaugh Now, to find some CANoms... Cade Calrayn 15:43, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
OLIOSTER ^(talk) 18:51, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Object

501
- ~~Could you add the Carrion sector to the main article?~~
- 501st dogma^(talk) 20:59, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
  - Done. Winterz (talk) 21:30, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
- ~~Authors for Atlas?~~ 501st dogma^(talk) 22:25, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
  - I just can't get enooooough. Done. Winterz (talk) 22:28, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
502
- ~~In the BTS: "First appeared" isn't accurate for something in the "Soures" section; "was first mentioned" would be more accurate.~~
  - Corrected.
- ~~Some overlinking in the BTS; The Unknown Soldier is linked twice.~~
  - Argh, corrected.
- I'm a little confused --- the BTS reads as if this planet was called "Abbaji" in both Unknown Soldier and the Atlas, with the name "Abbaji Minor" coming from a Jason Fry post at the JC forums. Is that true? If so, has the name "Abbaji Minor" ever appeared in canon? If not, the BTS will need some re-wording to be clear as to what the story is. Menkooroo (talk) 01:50, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
  - Is it less confusing now? Winterz (talk) 20:49, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
    - Definitely. Is there any indication that the name "Abbaji Minor" is canonical, though? ie, can you link me to Jason Fry's post (the current URL is dead). Menkooroo (talk) 03:18, November 22, 2012 (UTC)
      - Couldn't find anything about the name Abbaji Minor though I couldn't really ignore the facts. I, personally, never saw the forum's post but I'm sure that when the link was live, someone on Wookieepedia checked and confirmed it, otherwise the name wouldn't have stayed that way for so long. Either way, I thought it was relevant enough to leave it be. So now I'm on a standstill, what should my approach be in this matter? Erase, modify or let it be? As I await for your reply I've added a "conjecture tag" considering no source, besides supposedly the author, confirmed the name's authenticity. :s Winterz (talk) 19:18, November 27, 2012 (UTC)
        I've updated the link for you—the cartography thread is still alive at the Jedi Council Forums, though the URL (obviously) changed when the forums moved. But when you know where (and how) to look, the post isn't all that hard to find. Just type "abbaji minor" site:boards.theforce.net to Google and it turns up right away. :) Tinwe^(comlink) 11:23, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
        Thanks a lot, Tinwe! ;) Winterz (talk) 11:52, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
        OK... I don't think the conjecture tag is necessary; I think we need to call the world "Abbaji" based on what's in canon. The authorial intent can definitely be mentioned in "Behind the scenes," but until it makes its way into an official product, we'll need to stick with the facts. Moving the article to "Abbaji (minor)" and just calling it "Abbaji" throughout the article would probably be the best route. Does that sound good? Menkooroo (talk) 12:21, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
        This is becoming too confusing, done. Winterz (talk) 22:42, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
- OK! Final round. Check out my copy-edit for ideas on how linking can be improved.
  - Thanks, I should've learnt that by now!
- "the latter were known for colonizing and pillaging this planet." It's a good habit to get into to avoid using "this" in articles, as it reads like an out-of-universe descriptor and doesn't jive too well with past tense. "The" or "that" is usually better, depending on the situation, although in this case I think it would be best to just use the planet's name.
  - Oh was distracted, fixed.
- "Along the galactic history..." Ach, grammar! I think the mistake here might have come from the pipelink being "Timeline of galactic history," as "along the timeline of galactic history" would be gramatticaly correct. Anyway, fix 'er up, baby!
  - Grammar is always a big challenge to non-native speakers and the main reason I haven't even dared to face the Inq's wrath, yet. I think it's good now.
    - You know, I had no idea you were a non-native speaker. If you've fooled me for so long, then you're definitely doing a good job. :) Want me to archive this so you can take it to the GAN when possible? Menkooroo (talk) 00:57, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
      - Okay, you can archive it. Meanwhile I'll address your objections and hopefully I won't forget to nom it later :). Winterz (talk) 01:11, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
- Check out the link to Security Police --- doesn't seem accurate here.
  - True, removed the link.
- The first sentence of the BTS should be split up; it's pretty long and a bit rambly and the bit about the first Abbaji near Endor is an entirely new point.
- The last sentence of the BTS needs to be reworked --- Jason's comment doesn't constitute an official retcon if the name "Abbaji minor" isn't an official one.
- The article is currently over 230 words, which means an intro will need to be added that will likely bring it over 250. I think you could make a great GAN out of this, with specific years assigned to when the planet fell within the different territories within a "History" section. Menkooroo (talk) 10:16, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
  - Blargh! I have now addressed most of your latest objections, however, if I'm to take this to GAN the rest will have to wait because I don't have any available "slots" there. My current GANs are mostly just awaiting for new objections or support votes. Winterz (talk) 16:39, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

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