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Sith Lord
Hi, please, tell me something, where is stated that Bandon and bastila were Sith Lords? As far as I know, they were only Sith Apprentices and thus not Sith Lords, It is nonsence because they were still lerners. So why do you still change the article of Sith Lord and add them? Thanks for explanation. --ScorpiO 16:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Sith Lords I would be happy to explain. I checked to make sure. I went to the Darth Bandon page, and in case you do not know this there is a list a categories which he falls into at the bottom of the page. One of these categories is Category:Sith Lords of Revan's Sith Empire. I went to this Category page recently and saw that in addition to himself it also lists Bastila Shan, Jorak Uln, and Uthar Wynn. I even checked their pages and further confirmed that they also fell into the same Category. I had only recently discovered this myself.User:Revanthereformer1138
Ok. So I checked it out and U were right so I chnged their category from Revans Sith Lodrd to Sith Acolyts and Apprentices. I belive I did tight thing because neither Bandon, nor Bastila could not be Lords, this is not Rule of two so they are only apprentices. (It is not even case of Revan being Dark lord and Malak his Apprentice and also Sith Lord, It was diferent because they founded the Order and they led it. That is my opinion and i thing it is true.--ScorpiO 06:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Darth Sion vs Darth Nilhus
Who do you reckon would win? I too am a huge fan of KOTOR and KOTOR 2. It's briliant which game did you like more? Please reply on my talk page. Devan2 17:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC) Funny I'd have thought Sion was powerful anyway... It was hilarious thanks! Devan2 19:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Desann's Reborn vs the disciples of Ragnos
I'd say the disciples of Ragnos because they were a lot tougher to beat in the game and Dessan's reborn lacked discipline and were weak in the ways of the force. Who'd you say? User:Devan2 But Lord Hethrir's Empire Reborn faction were mainly made up of Desann and his minions as well. Desann was key so I'd say Tavion's minions definetly because they could have had Marka Ragnos on their side, Desann's reborn could not have dealt with an ancient sith lord though could they? Devan2 18:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Redoing Old Games
I think that would not be a very good idea coming from a business point of view seeing as Lucasarts are now developing games with euphoria and dmm and all that. So that's my opinion. i haven;t got the force unleashed yet though. Have you? Devan2 16:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Formal protest against the clone war tv show
This has gone on long enough. The clone wars TV show is ruining the canon. I am stating my reasons for why I think the TV show should be removed from canon. The original 10-minute shorts from 2003 are canon as far as I am concerned because it developed story.
1. It is just too plain silly. Men in battle do not make funny comments and obvious statements in real life. It is not a serious show. The goofy voice acting has no place in Star Wars. The original clone wars shorts were cartoony but serious, people died, and it developed plausible stories. Season one was basically just a one-hour long episode. In the new series they are cramming at least one-hour of story into 30 minutes of nothing but fighting. They said that the malevolence arc was an arc. It was nothing of the sort, it was just three stories about the malevolence.
2.The goody-two-shoes aspect. The Clone Wars canon has been established we know definitively what happens in the end. The aspect of the prequel trilogy was in the fact that we know what happens but not how it happens. The aspect of the original 10-minute shorts was in the fact that since the phantom menace came out a slew of new characters was established. You cared about the characters. During the Battle of Hypori I was praying that aayla and mundi did not die. They did not but three other jedi were brutally murdered. Then you have some more of anakin's journey towards the dark side with the menacing premonition on nelvaan. It developed the battle of coruscant and more or less syncs up with labyrinth of evil. In this series you just know that none of the new main characters are going to die because they have too much importance in the series. The other main characters have their stories fully developed and the canon has already decided what happens to them at the end of the clone wars.
3.It is implausible. How can you build an eclipse star dreadnought sized ship in less that two years? The other implausible scenarios are just too numerous to list.
4. It is messing with already established canon. I have looked at the wookieepedia knowledge bank in recent months and the questions about canonicity are too many.
5. The general sillyness. Two whole episodes about astromechs? I couldn't follow it. Battle droids are not that stupid, and how can they mistake Jar Jar for a jedi? He is a senator. Senators are too recognizable.
In conclusion I think that the clone wars TV show should be removed from canon (not the original shorts from 2003) Sign your user name under this petition on my discussion page if you agree with me and please send this message to other wookiepedians. I am the reformer, this is my message. Signed Revanthereformer1138 User:Revanthereformer1138
Sorry
Hey, i just wanted to say sorry for posting your petition and not giving you credit. My bad. Also i agree with you because for years i have been trying to understand everything i could about the clones and basically everything has now been contradicted. My friend and i will be sending a letter to Star Wars Insider and hopefully they respond. Vode An.JangoFett 16:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
The Halo Movie is a work in progress,the concept art was only released about 2-3 months ago.Dont expect till like 2011.For the petition ill ask around.Sith-venator 02:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
So yeah, I was gonna write a letter but I didn't get around to it so I'll probably be working on it later. So far, nothing of this new series is considered canon. George still hasn't decided it yet. He might if fans don't create a racket. So if we can really put this out there, showing everyone what is really messed up, we might make up a large audience and George might acknowledge people like us. Dave Filoni really didn't care what the clones turned out to be, he just wanted to appeal to kids. Thats a big money maker. Especially with Star Wars. JangoFett 17:28, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi again. By the way i have no problem with Resistance, in fact, I dont even know what it is. Besides, i'm not a big Halo fan, I just like how it's a fun game and the Red vs Blue series. I find it a rip off of Star Wars in many ways though. But then again, what isn't nowadays! Anyways, the thing that bothers me the most is the colors and tactics of the troopers. Actually, all of it is kid oriented but they messed up the colors so that kids could decipher who was who. Oh, Rex must be from the 501st like in that videogame! Actually, Battlefront kindda ticked me off too just because it was all about the 501st. But also, I hate the clone tactics. I'm pretty sure I read in Star Wars Insider that rank and file clones had a kill/death ratio of 1 to 100 B1 battle droids. In this show they drop like flies. They cant shoot for shit either. Oh well. All we can hope for is that it doesn't become canon. JangoFett 01:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Eh, here it goes. I'm that guy who posted that clone wars forum on knowledge bank (SURPRISE!!!!!!)
Like I said, i have only skimpy (a pun...) knowledge of the c.w e.u., but I agree with you. As I use wookieepedia to fill in some of the blanks, I'm ok.
I never thought anakin would have an apprentice, since he was still to reckless, and the jedi council must've had some idea of what was going on in his head.
I've always believed that about 2/3, or more of jedi (and intelligent beings of the star wars universe in general), should be aliens or at least have some odd feature which strikes them as not being humans. Also, it's obvious to me that exactly one half of jedi should be female (the force isn't sexist...)
Therefore, the idea of a character like Ashoka doesn't bother me, but her place as anakin's apprentice does. I found found out about this orange abnormality when looking at lego star wars things in a lego magazine. I had no idea who she was, but figured she was some random jedi from some other e.u., who had helped anakin tie up a few loose ends, gone on adventures with him, and died before episode three. Then, i found out about the second clone wars seiries, and everything, and was shocked. I agree with the idea of appealing to youngsters, but get real...
I really don't ever voluntarily watch cartoon network. It, I feel, is in identity crisis, while the giants of disney channel, and the always humerous nickelodeon are battle stations of cartons and things, with enough firepower to destroy an entire runt like cartoon network. Perhaps I am wrong about the last bit, but I don't blame the CTN people for wanting to have star wars stuff, to strengthen their fleet of mediocre cartoons.
The point is, The kind of big words and seriousness that naturally is in star wars- but with the odd CGI, and random kiddyness of the second seiries, JUST AINT RIGHT. Of course people died in a seiries like that, but get real (again). If you ask me, the new clone wars seiries is just a $$$ making novelty for any huttlet too lazy to have his/her parents go out and rent episodes I through VI (hopefully, said huttlet's parents already own all 6...)
By the way, shouldn't ashoka wear a regular tunic? Aayla, effectively earned skimpy dress (and she was a Twi-lek to begin with, albeit a former slave)- but not for padawans. Actually, because he was wearing a hooded cloak at the time- an because Nute gunray was always so paranoid- Jar Jar could be mistaken for a jedi. I agree, clone troopers could easily take on b2's, and space pirates on swoops.
Chewie, rest in peace.
69.122.204.87 01:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC) (taprawa, please don't block me again)
Halo
Thanks for the summary! It sounds really interesting. Halo is just about the USMC at war with aliens. The aliens are combined of different species because they are all devoted to some religion. Their force is called the Covenant and so the Covenant and USMC want to find these things called Forerunner technologies built bajillions of years ago known as Halo rings. The rings were built to fight this zombie infection called the Flood. So basically it's Humans vs Covenant vs Flood and you play as a super soldier from earth known as a Spartan. In so many ways its a rip off of Star Wars though. For example, the Halo rings have the power to destroy entire planets! Basically your Spartan, the Master Chief, is supposed to destroy the Death Star with a bunch of marines that barely help you.JangoFett 18:38, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
The bike you talk of is called the chopper.Sith-venator 21:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Pitch black. Ok. Do you know how old it is? Just wondering. JangoFett 00:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Sounds great! I've heard of Chronicles of Riddick before. Thanks! JangoFett 00:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
The Human-Covenant War is really long. It starts in 2525 and ends in 2553 Spartan785 00:29, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Master Chiefs story starts near the end of the war, in 2552. There are novels that explain his training(he was trained since the age of six) and his other missions, but the games story starts in 2552. His actions during all 3 games, greatly affect the war, brining an early end to it. Spartan785 16:52, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
I voted for Plo Koon, and ill probably vote for Starkiller as well. Spartan785 19:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Canonicity
Sorry, I could have sworn I saw it written somewhere in the knowledge bank. I'm puzzled. Even on the page "Clone Trooper" the top states that the page has some canon issues. I'm almost 100 % sure the new series isn't canon. This isn't an official site is it? Because if it isn't, whose to say you look like a fool. Not even this site can know everything. I'm leaving on vacation so I'll talk to you in 2009. Happy Holidays. JangoFett 01:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Your Crusade against The Clone Wars series
I've noticed you've been pretty much campaigning against The Clone Wars TV series (your petition here, and going on other people's talk pages and asking them if they agree with you that it's terrible etc) on Wookieepedia. You should probably cut it out as per here. Wookieepedia is not for discussing how much you like/dislike any particular part of Star Wars. For that you're better off going to some place like theforce.net. If you keep it up, you could even be banned (not by me, however, since I'm certainly not an admin). DolukTalk 00:19, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Well, it wasn't really us at Wookieepedia who figured out the place of TCW in canon - we just follow Lucasfilm's policy. Incidentally, the link that was given in the forum topic you started about it (here's the link again: http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=152583&start=1838) goes to a page where Leeland Chee (also known as TastyTaste) confirms that TCW is considered canon which trumps EU sources (such as books, and the previous Clone Wars animated show). That basically means that in the case of any conflicts with existing sources (other than the movies), the information in TCW is what we go by. In case you don't know (which a lot of people don't), Leeland Chee is actually an employee of Lucasfilm - he's the guy in charge of maintaining their continuity and making judgements on canonicity. So really, it is Lucasfilm who "figured out" the place of TCW in canon. DolukTalk 22:35, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, making your voice heard to Lucasfilm in asking for retcons is a better approach for sure. I wouldn't expect too much of a response (they're busy people, after all), but that doesn't neccessarily mean that they aren't listening. Personally, I'm a big fan of retcons, and I know that there are a bunch of EU authors who really enjoy reconciling seemingly contradictory pieces of canon. One other note - the different versions of the Force Unleashed aren't in need of any sort of retcon. The novel version is canon, and the other versions are non-canon where they conflict with the novel. The differences are considered strictly a game mechanic. DolukTalk 04:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
The flaws of the protest
Hello, I just wanted to point out the flaws of your "protest" on The Clone Wars series. Here are the flaws of each reason you've given.
1: Actually, men in battle do make jokes. It helps lighten the mood, and it happens all the time. Also, I wouldn't say that the original Clone Wars series is more "plausible" with the exaggerated Jedi abilities and all.
2: I wouldn't say that the series is "goody-two shoes". Lair of Grievous was pretty good along with Cloak of Darkness. 3: Its implausible? Than how did the Empire build a second Death Star in a few years after the first was blown up?
4: Read Darth Bane: Path of Destruction? That messed with already established canon as well, and its an EU story! Also, have you heard of Retcons?
5: Why the hate on astromechs? R2-D2 is very important, and I don't see that this is more silly than the early Droids cartoons and comics. Also, I don't think that Battle Droids know about senators. They are Battle Droids and are for made for battle, not politics. Plus, Gungans tend to look like Jar Jar. How are Battle Droids going to know that the Gungan in the Jedi Robe is actually Senator Binks?
I'm not trying to be mean, I just wanted to... well, you know what I said. Plus, listen to User:Doluk, he's right and you could get in trouble, and you are offending those who love the series (myself included). Zakor1138 04:29, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
How does the The Darth Bane Duology mess up canon?Sith-venator 02:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC) Yes, you are offending those who like the series like me.Obiwan3000 15:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC) The Darth Bane Duology actually messed up a previous record of having something inside a tomb instead of nothing. but the Force Unleashed also messed up the fact that Shaak Ti dies in a deleted scene. Which, btw, is considered canon. JangoFett 01:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Knowledge of Canonicity
I have recently went over the canon rules on this website. In my studies, I have found that, T-canon, or TV canon, overules c-canon (such as comic books and video games), but not G-canon(the original 6 movies). This means that since items such as ARC troopers are not in the films, they can be portrayed by TV series (the cartoon AND cgi) as whatever they want. But, since rules of rank within clone troopers was visually described in the films, a captain, such as Rex, would end up with red armor. ARC or not. That being said, many items could end up disoriented in the new CGI show/movie, but never be admitted into actual G-canon. A few of these are body armor color, strength and structure of the GAR, hair styles, and vehicles, just to name a few. If anybody reading this has any questions, they can easily speak to an administrator about the subject or feel free to argue with me. Not trying to be mean but...you know, just straightening up these matters since no one else has. No offense to all the shiny boys out there. JangoFett 01:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
NOO!
the link doesn't work any more!!! JangoFett 19:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Man that is sooo lame. Also this new clone wars crap is getting more serious than I thought. the reason why i'm so worried is because it all takes place btwn ep 2 and 3 and no other movie has been there to prove them wrong. they have the right of way because comic book/story canon is below the tv show canon. JangoFett 16:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Please don't remove content from your talk page
FYI, you're not supposed to remove any content from your talk page unless you're archiving it. If you continue to do it, you may run afoul of the admins, and that's probably best avoided. ;-) DolukTalk 00:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Warning
Do not remove posts from your talk page. If you don't want to see the, archive them so that they may remain part of the public record. Consider this your warning. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- And please remember to sign each of your posts with four tildes. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Enough already
OK, so you dont like the new series. Stop the crusade already. Its driving us Wookieepedians nuts!!! BTW, is IS canon and Leland Chee said that the time line will be arranged once the series is largly finished. Also, you do NOT have an advanced understanding of SW canon because of your protest. Also the guys making the show are trying to keep canon clean, its George Lucas´ saying screwing with the CW timeline. So that would make you a Lucas Basher. Good Day!
I have read every single star wars book from darth Bane to Truce of Bakura and have read all the clone wars comics along with Tales of the Jedi, Kotor, And rogue squadron along with all the omnibus's, played every single star wars game. If you read my protest it is mostly not because of the canon, it is because of their dipiction of the star wars galaxy, it is to kiddie. By the way sign your name.User:Revanthereformer1138
WTF?
Yo, WTF are u doing? Do not give up. Be like me, simply state your opposition but dont necessarily bug people about it. And don't listen to the other guys. If I say it ain't canon then it isn't to me. Tsh, Lucas Basher, you know what I call worshippers like them, Nerds. Yep, call me a hippie, call me a Lucas Basher, call me a nerd too but really you gotta fight for what you think is right (to party) so dont harass people but you can surely take that awful, poorly written statement about giving in to all the a$$hole$ on this site! -JangoFett 04:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Blocked
You have been blocked from editing for one month because Wookieepedia is not a game. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. Graestan(Talk) 23:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the complements regarding my additions. And thank you for reminding me of Phobos, I completely forgot about her. Jensaarai 04:18, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
Sith Page Edit
Your little concept looks fine, just find a good place to plant it. Jensaarai 07:35, October 9, 2009 (UTC) PS. Its not like you have to check with me whenever making an edit to the history portion of the Sith article. I just got going at it because the guy who started got me interested but kinda dropped off, so I just wanted to try to finish it. In fact, I'm surprised that others haven't done so as well.
The Old Republic
Hey man, I'm definitely looking forward to The Old Republic. I'm looking to start as Sith Inquisitor. On the opposite side of the coin from yours, the Inquisitor seems tempted to go Light, or at least Grey. Sounds fun! I don't know if you saw today's Making Of feature on the game website (www.swtor.com) but they were talking about how they're designing Taris. Looking forward to it! Hey and I'm glad you came to chat; I accidentally pissed off other dude for telling to read articles and not ask questions that aren't answerable (and then apologized), so I'm glad I haven't alienated everyone :) Cheers. Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 04:55, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
- If I had to guess, probably stasis? I'd imagine the whole prison is like individual stasis fields, like a cryogenic freeze. I haven't finished playing through KOTOR (I only recently got it on Steam) but I remember reading that the Rakatan on Lehon had been in stasis or frozen or whatever for over 20k years. And there have been other such prisons in Star Wars (I think Stars' End was like that?) so that's my guess. Still, such a random planet, but it looks really cool. Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 01:38, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
Simple choice
Either stop spamming voluntarily, or we make you stop. Thank you, and have a Wookiee-tastic day. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 03:18, September 17, 2010 (UTC)