Talk: Revan's Exile

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Revan's motivations

I should have said "widely understood", not "widely used". I meant that Zahn had been putting allusions to that effect regarding Thrawn in multiple books, not that authors had applied it to multiple characters. As for your description of "cop gone bad", isn't that THE common dark jedi story? Isn't that the Anakin Skywalker story? The Dooku story? The Caedus story? The Darth Krayt story? I don't see that as unique at all. Oh, and I moved this to our talk pages as it nothing to do with Lightsabers. —fodigg ^(talk) | 16:55, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Cop gone bad would be the examples you mentioned, but a cop that becomes addicted as part of his job is simply a cop through the course of his job in protecting the city from criminal elements was forced to expose himself to something he couldn't control how it affected his bio chemistry, he isn't bad. How he handles the addiction from that point on determines if he is bad, simply being addicted isn't bad, otherwise every cigarette addict would be a bad person or any other type of addict. Addiction is bad for you but doesn't make you a bad person, what makes and addict a bad person is how they try to pay for their addiction. --Revan's Exile 17:00, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

But didn't you just describe Anakin, and by extension anyone who riffs off of Anakin (e.g., Caedus)? —fodigg ^(talk) | 18:40, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know who Caedus is, I don't pay attention to Star Wars outisde of the games & movies/tv. The only exception is the one comic where Vader wears white armor and turns to the light. Anakin fell to the Dark Side because of his emotions. Revan under the old motivations it wasn't emotionally based it was a calculated risk to save the galaxy from a stronger threat it was unprepared for, and he succeeded the True Sith never took over the Republic, just another Fallen Jedi, unless they retconned Palpatine into being a True Sith. --Revan's Exile 00:24, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
  - Revan's original story was what it is now. You are referring to the Kreia version, written by a different publisher and told by a character who was the sith lord of betrayal and who had been lying to you the entire game. Furthermore, I feel that you're picking nits in the difference between Revan and Vader. Revan was not some sort of "undercover cop". Even if he told himself that, he was leading an empire to conquer the galaxy to make it stronger. That's exactly what Vader was attempting to do. Look at his speech to Padme in Episode III. He's basically telling her "The galaxy sucks and isn't safe, but once I conquer it I can make it better." It's not a "calculated risk". It's arrogance. "I won't become like that because I'm stronger." It fits Revan's motivations perfectly. Revan wasn't just some addict who the Jedi put through detox, he made a choice, but when he returned to that choice later, he made it right the second time. Vader is proof that you can do that no matter how "corrupted" you are by the dark side. It is always a choice. —fodigg ^(talk) | 15:20, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

(PS: Caedus is just a riff off of Vader in the novels. Exact same story, except it's the Galactic Alliance, not Galactic Empire.)

Removing messages

Please do not remove content from your talk page, as stated in the welcome message. Thanks. -- 1358 ^(Talk) 16:11, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

You can always archive the old stuff though. Just create a user page called "archived talk" or some such and link to it on here. —fodigg ^(talk) | 16:14, May 4, 2010 (UTC)