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Lenght Valor-class cruiser
Hey Mate! You might have seen my post here already. Unfortunately, I have not recieved an answer yet. You recently added some information about the length of the Valor-class cruiser with the The Old Republic Encyclopedia as source. I also have this encyclopedia at home but I could not find anything specific about length data of the Valor-class, especially not for the mentioned 600 metres. The only source which mentions an approximate length would be the novel The Old Republic: Annihilation but there it is just ca. 500 m. Could you please give me the exact page where you found this info? As being a user of Jedipedia.net, the German version of Wookieepedia, I would like to add this to our article as well but I can’t do this without a proper source and exact reference. Cheers! --Tranefine (talk) 16:23, December 27, 2018 (UTC)
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Hey, I noticed that your signature says Euxdoxia instead of Flavivsaetivis. Wiki policy says non-admins must have their full usernames in their sigs. Fan26 (Talk) 17:14, June 18, 2019 (UTC)
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C-class
Hello Flavivsetivs, I have noticed your recent changes on Terminus-class destroyer and that the designation C-class destroyer would not be an alternative designation for the one. In fact, Drew Karpyshyn has confimed it a few years ago that it would be the same, in fact. In the comment history you noted that the C-class would refer to the Interdictor-class instead. Can you tell me where this is stated in the novel? Cheers! ;) --Tranefine (talk) 08:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Tranefine. Well ignoring the fact Wookieepedia now has a policy that Twitter posts cannot be taken as canon information, the issue derives from Karpyshyn's own description on Page 74 of Annihilation, where he states the C-class is "Claw Shaped." That's what led me to moving the designation from that of the Terminus-class to the Interdictor-class. I don't think Karpyshyn even knew what the Interdictor-class was actually called in-universe (Karpyshyn generally does not seem to be the type to keep track of this information - notice for example in Path of Destruction where he just calls the ships "Sith Cruisers, "Sith Dreadnaughts", and "Sith Corsairs" compared to where he actually named the Hammerhead for the first time himself.) I don't think he knows what a Harrower-class or Terminus-class actually is, since he didn't create them. Karpyshyn was notorious for admitting he doesn't read or play the stuff outside of what he creates, which of course led to the issues with KOTOR II and the Revan novel. If you're not okay with having the Interdictor-class as C-class, I'm open to suggestions. Create a separate page for C-Class, maybe? The rule about twitter posts definitely poses a problem for the Thranta and Valor pages as well. Maybe it will just have to be relegated all to "Behind the Scenes"/Footnotes?Flavivsaetivs (talk) 00:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- I absolutely see your point. I must confess that I didn’t remember, he described it as “claw-shaped” in the book. It’s been a while now that I have read it. Perhaps it is more likely after all that the C-class is an alternative designation of the Interdictor-class, yes. Nevertheless, we should - ideally in both articles - include the tweet as Karpyshyn's comment, pointing out that his statement is in conflict with his own description of the ship.--Tranefine (talk) 12:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Tranefine, I would agree with moving it to "Behind the Scenes" in a mention on both the Terminus-class and the Interdictor-class page. I think we should also move the CR-12 and D-Class on the Thranta and Valor pages as well, due to Wookieepedia's policy about tweets being a source. However, I think this also means the length of the Valor-class I believe will have to be moved to "Behind the Scenes" as well. All of the Annihilation references are going to have to be checked now. Flavivsaetivs (talk) 11:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Regarding the C-class, I would agree that we put this information in the "Behind the Scenes" part. I disagree, however about the CR-12 and D-class designations that they would not refer to the Thranta-class corvette and Valor-class cruiser. It has been a while since I have read Annihilation, but there are some clear hints in the book that they would refer to both ship classes, like a “hammer-like front section” for the CR-12 or the “shell-like fuselage” of the D-class. I doubt that these Karpyshyn used precisely those words as I do not have the book in English, only in German. It would also take some time to search for the page in the version I have before confirming what I just said. Maybe you are faster than me.
- Hello Tranefine, I would agree with moving it to "Behind the Scenes" in a mention on both the Terminus-class and the Interdictor-class page. I think we should also move the CR-12 and D-Class on the Thranta and Valor pages as well, due to Wookieepedia's policy about tweets being a source. However, I think this also means the length of the Valor-class I believe will have to be moved to "Behind the Scenes" as well. All of the Annihilation references are going to have to be checked now. Flavivsaetivs (talk) 11:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I absolutely see your point. I must confess that I didn’t remember, he described it as “claw-shaped” in the book. It’s been a while now that I have read it. Perhaps it is more likely after all that the C-class is an alternative designation of the Interdictor-class, yes. Nevertheless, we should - ideally in both articles - include the tweet as Karpyshyn's comment, pointing out that his statement is in conflict with his own description of the ship.--Tranefine (talk) 12:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- But before somebody does some significant changes on all of these articles, you should probably consult some other authors here which are a bit more familiar with the subject and the English version of Annihilation as I am. But for the moment, I would probably keep it as it is right now.--Tranefine (talk) 14:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Tranefine, well my first language is English, and while I agree with your descriptions, that's not the issue. The issue is that official Wookieepedia policy is that Tweets cannot be used as an official source, and linking the D-Class with the Valor and the CR-12 with the Thranta, as logical as that may be, is based technically on a tweet. Maybe it would be worth asking an admin about this problem, since this predates that policy I believe, with those original changes going back 8 years now.Flavivsaetivs (talk) 05:13, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- But before somebody does some significant changes on all of these articles, you should probably consult some other authors here which are a bit more familiar with the subject and the English version of Annihilation as I am. But for the moment, I would probably keep it as it is right now.--Tranefine (talk) 14:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Corsair (Derriphan-class)
- Naga Sadow's flagship is called the Corsair in Star Wars: The Old Republic. Rakhsh (talk) 18:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Rakhsh Ugh as someone who loves the game, SWTOR's lore is a disaster, worse than The Clone Wars even. Yeah I just double-checked every reference to "Sadow" and "Corsair" I could find in the game's databases and apparently whoever wrote the entry for the Galactic History 59 Datacron retconned the name to the Corsair because they too misread the original comics. The Derriphan-class wasn't named that until 2008 with the KOTOR Campaign Guide. This is why Karpyshyn used "Corsair Battleship" in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction, because Derriphan-class hadn't been established yet. Anyways, I apparently missed that retcon. Flavivsaetivs (talk) 23:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)