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Second Imperial Civil War
Hi, please do not remove the links from the article. Also the Alliance formed by the New Jedi Order, the Alliance and the Empire make up one side of the war, so that's the reason they're together.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 08:12, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
--Darthfreebo (talk) 09:33, July 28, 2019 (UTC) --Darthfreebo (talk) 08:59, July 28, 2019 (UTC) Second Imperial Civil War I had read several times the Legacy comics, because its my favorite of all Star Wars stories, but to show this conflict as 2-factions in War with each other in Wiki is just simply wrong, the past view of 3-factions is far more accurate. The comics most likely refers only to the events between 137aby-138aby, at the imperial civil war started already in 130aby with Krayt taking the imperial seat, during 130-137aby for 7 it was made very clear that the empire-in-exile and GA-Remnants had just one common goal, the defeat of the sith. But the end-goal of both factions were different, Roan Fel wanted his Empire back and Gar Stazi wanted to re-establish the GA. During those first 7years they attacked independently from each other the sith, without having any kind of alliance.
The Alliance starts in 137Aby! Not before.
If we just observe those events from a bigger perspective, the alliance between those 2 factions were really short, in the best case 1 years between 137aby and 138aby. That's just 1 of 8 years during the entire civil war. Besides during the end battle in Coruscant, Roan Fel as Leader of his Imperial Faction, even tried to wipe out all Life of Coruscant inclusive his GA Allies, which shows that the short-term alliance with the GA wasnt important for him at all.
Conclusion: the Alliance between the GA-Remnant and Fel was short and temporary in nature, in a long 8-year war, it isn't logical at all to put those 2factions as 1faction. It just falsify the events and struggle of this conflict for those who didn't read the comic at all. You cannot say there were an Alliance between 130-138Aby its simply false, and this Article is about the Second Imperial Civil War which play during 130-138aby.
- I have recently re-read them as well and basically half way through the series the Empire-in-exile, the Galactic Alliance Remnant and the New Jedi Order form an Alliance to take down the Darth Krayt's Sith Empire. so basically the 3-sided battle became two-sided as all three organizations had a common goal.--Jkirk8907 (talk) 09:45, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
Your reading abilities must be really bad, you are completely ignoring all my arguments here, its not about the reading series at all, if you are referring to a war "Second Imperial Civil war 130ABY-138ABY" in full scale, than the fact remains the Alliance stood in the best case 1Year. If you would write here an abstract about the comic series than your point would be valid, because it would be about the occurrence itself. But this is an INFOBOX about all years of the War, not just the 1year in 137ABY-138ABY! You are falsifying here completely what the Comic gives us about the information's of this war.
Feel free to proof that the alliance has happend between 130-138ABY for full 8 years, than your view should remain, otherwise stop falsifying here the data about the War.
- That's why i put the (late) next to the Alliance as in the fact that they appeared "late" in the war. Even though the three organizations waged their own little war against the Krayt's Empire, they still banded together and thus became a two-sided war. Also remember to use the four tildes (~) when leaving a message.--Jkirk8907 (talk) 19:20, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
--Darthfreebo (talk) 09:41, July 29, 2019 (UTC) You put a small (late) inside, which is at first for most people very easy to overlook, the next point is you are just concentrating on the last months of the War, again this is an article about the whole war 8-Years, you are creating here really misinformations, someone who didnt read the comics at all will definitly get a very wrong idea about the story of the comic. Best example here on your Infobox is, you put Admiral Rulf Yage into alliance side? He switched sides in Legacy-War 4, this is just 2 comic issues away from being the end of the whole comic saga. To be more specific Its Comic Issue 54 from a total of 56 issues. Between Issue 1-53 he served all the time for the Krayt Empire. Also you put Admiral Gar Stazi the Leader of the Galactic Alliance Remnant far under Emperor Roan Fel, like Roan Fel would be the Alliance Leader, but he was not, he did a temporary military pact with Gar Stazi, and Gar Stazi told him even in the Comics, that they are Equal Leaders => Legacy Issue 36.
Warning
This is an official warning for you, next time you revert the Second Imperial Civil War page you're going to be blocked per our 3RR policy. Also next time I see comments like this one "Your reading abilities must be really bad", you're going to be blocked for a long time, per our Civility policy. The user was making his statement of why he believed it should be two. I don't care if you're right or wrong, next time you do any of those things you're going to get a block. Thanks--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 19:10, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
--Darthfreebo (talk) 09:19, July 29, 2019 (UTC) An admin should definitly care about right and wrong in a wiki page, to post false information and supporting this is definitly not the purpose of a wiki page. And about the User, the User didnt do anykind of discussion here, he simply ignored all my arguments and revert everything. And it doesnt look like you are really neutral here, you are very clearly taking a stance for a user against another, which is definitely not your task as admin. But feel free to warn and bann me, its not like i can create unlimited new accounts and use a new IP every time, so better get use to discuss with me in neutral terms about facts, and if you or he can deliver better arguments than i accept freely other arguments unlike others.
- The three-revert-rule has nothing to do with whether information is correct or not, but rather with preventing pointless edit wars where neither side disengage. You're welcome to engage in a productive discussion on the talk page of the article in question. As an side, I really recommend you revisit your attitude towards editing here—threatening to evade blocks is generally frowned upon. 1358 (Talk) 09:32, July 29, 2019 (UTC)
- The user did indeed reverted, that's why I asked him to contact you. Its been a while since I read it, so I wanted to see both sides of the argument, but initiating a response with "Your reading abilities must be really bad", won't get you far as well threatening to evade blocks with several accounts and IPs. I'm not taking a stance, especially if I don't remember the specifics of each article that Wookieepedia has. And to what I've read and seen is that both ways are technically correct, given that the Alliance can be considered as part of the Empire side, even though their goals weren't the same, or be considered as a separate side that at the end united against a common foe. Initiaing a calmed, formal discussion on the article talk page would be the best bet to solve this problem in a productive way.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 09:37, July 29, 2019 (UTC)