Yuck. This is way too cluttered now, I feel. QuentinGeorge 07:39, 19 Oct 2005 (UTC)
- I don't even think it's necessary or helpful given the nature of this Wiki; I say we delete it. MarcK 09:05, 19 Oct 2005 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, it looks like this article will survive VfD. And even more unfortunately, I can't really see any other way to fix the problems with it. Red XIV 02:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Styling
I think the styling on this temp. should match that of other nav templates, such as {{Darkforces}} and others. Besides just consistency, templates of this type look better and more professional, in my opinion. Thoughts? RMF 02:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- The new version looks much more organized and professional looking, IMHO. Adamwankenobi
Talk to me! My home. 02:08, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
TV series section
I think it would be best to keep all the TV series under one section for the time being, as Underworld is unproduced, and has thus yet to be classified, and Detours, though obviously non-canon, is also unclassified and unreleased. Adamwankenobi (talk) 16:05, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- Then a better solution would be to remove Detours and Underworld. Underworld especially will probably never be produced. We shouldn't lump everything into one section, since it suggests an official equality between them that does not exist. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:18, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- It has been confirmed that Detours will be released at some point, and Underworld is too important to Star Wars history to remove. As for officiality, there's Lucas officiality and then there's Disney officiality; Lucas oversaw everything from Droids until TCW, and then Disney co-opted TCW into their officiality. Adamwankenobi (talk) 16:40, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- There's canon, and there's not. What matters is what's currently official. That's what the facts are, and we deal in facts. If you lump them together, it suggests an equality that does not exist. And regarding your point about Underworld, I would hardly call something that was talked about for years and never materialized "too important" to remove. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:43, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not disputing canon, just what you were saying about official. It's difficult to classify Detours and Underworld at this point, both of which are official. As for Underworld, all the scripts were written and pre production was completed. Adamwankenobi (talk) 16:50, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- But Underworld was never actually made; the fact that it was written doesn't mean it's notable enough for this template. And if you want to move Detours somewhere (and even Underworld if you really want), it could go on the bottom, in the same section as TFU, SWTOR, etc. But we should not lump Canon/Legends together; this template needs to be as clear as possible for readers. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:55, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- I don't see the need to divide this particular template into canon/legends. It seems to be a very general "here are the films, now here are the tv shows, now here is this, etc." sort of template. The division of canon and legends actually complicates the template if you ask me. Adamwankenobi (talk) 17:05, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- It may make it longer, but it makes it clearer. Follow social media and you'll see that people still don't understand what counts as Canon and what counts as Legends. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 17:14, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- In that case, it might make sense to create a "Star Wars canon" template and leave this one as an all-purpose "Star Wars media" template. That way, both purposes are served. Adamwankenobi (talk) 17:22, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- It may make it longer, but it makes it clearer. Follow social media and you'll see that people still don't understand what counts as Canon and what counts as Legends. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 17:14, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- I don't see the need to divide this particular template into canon/legends. It seems to be a very general "here are the films, now here are the tv shows, now here is this, etc." sort of template. The division of canon and legends actually complicates the template if you ask me. Adamwankenobi (talk) 17:05, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- But Underworld was never actually made; the fact that it was written doesn't mean it's notable enough for this template. And if you want to move Detours somewhere (and even Underworld if you really want), it could go on the bottom, in the same section as TFU, SWTOR, etc. But we should not lump Canon/Legends together; this template needs to be as clear as possible for readers. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:55, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not disputing canon, just what you were saying about official. It's difficult to classify Detours and Underworld at this point, both of which are official. As for Underworld, all the scripts were written and pre production was completed. Adamwankenobi (talk) 16:50, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- There's canon, and there's not. What matters is what's currently official. That's what the facts are, and we deal in facts. If you lump them together, it suggests an equality that does not exist. And regarding your point about Underworld, I would hardly call something that was talked about for years and never materialized "too important" to remove. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 16:43, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
- It has been confirmed that Detours will be released at some point, and Underworld is too important to Star Wars history to remove. As for officiality, there's Lucas officiality and then there's Disney officiality; Lucas oversaw everything from Droids until TCW, and then Disney co-opted TCW into their officiality. Adamwankenobi (talk) 16:40, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
Clone Wars Volume One/Two
Should Clone Wars: Volume One and Clone Wars: Volume Two be listed under Spin-off films(legends)? I know they are just compilations of episodes, but the Droids/Ewok compilations are listed. Darth Fool (talk) 19:25, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
- In my opinion, no. I'd be inclined to leave out the Droids and Ewoks compilations, too, but those are at least justifiable on the grounds that they're re-edits of selected original episodes. The Clone Wars DVDs are just straight-up DVD releases of the entire seasons, no different from DVD releases of the later The Clone Wars animated series. This list is already long; let's not lengthen it more with redundant entries. Asithol (talk) 18:26, March 8, 2017 (UTC)
- There are changes, but they aren't as drastic as the Droids/Ewoks. The chapters are edited together with new transitions, and the first volume swaps the positions of the fourth and fifth chapters. I say either all the compilations should be removed or they should all included. It's hard to say, they're kind of in a grey area. Adamwankenobi (talk) 20:42, March 8, 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, Adamwan, for stopping my attempt to spread misinformation... er, "alternative facts." I'm still of a mind to remove them all: None of the re-edits are substantive enough to make the compilations distinct works from the originals. A template such as this should really just provide an overview of the universe's major works. Droids fits the bill; a sloppy patchwork of a handful of its episodes does not. What do others think? Asithol (talk) 10:01, March 10, 2017 (UTC)
- There are changes, but they aren't as drastic as the Droids/Ewoks. The chapters are edited together with new transitions, and the first volume swaps the positions of the fourth and fifth chapters. I say either all the compilations should be removed or they should all included. It's hard to say, they're kind of in a grey area. Adamwankenobi (talk) 20:42, March 8, 2017 (UTC)
Nice work, Adamwan! I love how you've slimmed this template down. It really focuses on a high-level view now, rather than getting mired in minutiae. Asithol (talk) 18:39, May 20, 2017 (UTC)
Canon/Legnds
Before I make any edits, why the Legends and Canon section were rmeoved, that was helpful especially for people looking only for canon or legends content --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 20:06, May 20, 2017 (UTC)
- I think the canon/legends tags only muddy the layout of the template. In my opinion, it would mak3 thee most sense for the template to reflect the real-world production of the projects (i.e. "Here are the TV projects Lucasfilm has produced") and let the articles themselves aid in guiding people on canon/legends. The reason for this is that these distinctions are always subject to change (so far we've had two different corporate brandings of canon), whereas the production aspect doesn't change. Adamwankenobi (talk) 19:38, September 17, 2019 (UTC)
Underworld
There are three reasons I put Underworld under canon:
- Kathleen Kennedy said it is still in the cards and has informed story group's work on other projects.
- This means it has the same status as the third anthology film, which is linked in the template.
- Removing Detours from the template (as its inclusion would logically require things like The Freemaker Aventures to be included as well, so it is now covered under the parodies link in "other media) would leave Underworld with its own section. In light of points 1 and 2, this seems unneccesary.
Adamwankenobi (talk) 23:26, June 19, 2017 (UTC)
- Detours can be removed, but the Underworld project is still unknown, until there's more information saying that it could be released in a near future like the third anthology film said by Bob Iger it would be released in 2020. Best thing is leave it as other, since is completly unknown for us --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:39, June 19, 2017 (UTC)
- Also I feel that the parodies and the multimedia project need to be worked to be more reader friendly. Like a real page listing multimedia projects and other with the parodies like Lego, Detours, and the other parodies--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:43, June 19, 2017 (UTC)
Recent edits
The movies announced today shouldn't be linked on the template; The Johnson and Benioff & Weiss links already have them covered. Adamwankenobi (talk) 21:47, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
- That's wrong, there's no even confirmation to which film series they belong. Even if we knew that doesn't mean they shouldn't be there, a new section would be created just like the Star Wars saga section--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 21:51, May 7, 2019 (UTC)
Split canon/Legends?
Might it be worth considering splitting this template to have one that includes only Canon, and another that contains only Legends? Ever since the EU reboot, it's felt just a bit wrong that all the Legends stuff is listed in these boxes on canon pages (and vice versa). I don't know that it's completely necessary, but it would help to keep canon/Legends pages focused, and have the added benefit of simplifying the template so it's not one big ungodly long unwieldy thing. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 01:38, September 15, 2019 (UTC)
- I believe this template would work best as OOU, simply listing the projects that have been released. Canon and Legends are concepts that were applied after-the-fact. Adamwankenobi (talk) 01:41, September 15, 2019 (UTC)
"Anthology"
Anthology shouldn't be here, the name was dropped immediately, and it was more of an announcement to go away from the Episode-Trilogy format than a real project. CharlotteSmoothie (talk) 15:54, 21 December 2020 (UTC)